General Election 2017

[Bold Seagull]

Been Red all of my life, but anyone voting this way right now needs to take a deep breath and step back.

Seriously, you are going back to the Abbott interview like no one saw it before!? Like we don't know Hammond made a similar gaff with a £20bn mistake with HS2 - and he is the friggin chancellor, and it barely got covered!

Bollocks you've been Red all your life and now you're voting Tory. Absolute bollocks.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

There are many "Dianne Abbotts" in the Tory Party, just look at Boris FFS!

Zzzzzzzz. That is in an Election build up ffs. You cannot simply ignore such ineptitude.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Zzzzzzzz. That is in an Election build up ffs. You cannot simply ignore such ineptitude.

So you ignore ineptitude when it suits you?

Just as a reminder, he isn't a shadow minister in opposition, he is in charge of the Treasury!!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/philip-hammond-hs2-cost-wrong-20bn-radio-interview-highspeed-railway-4-today-programme-election-2017-a7742006.html

 

[Guinness Boy]

Zzzzzzzz. That is in an Election build up ffs. You cannot simply ignore such ineptitude.

Someone who'd been red all their life would perhaps be pointing out the ineptitude, u-turning flim flam and general hopelessness of Theresa May today, not digging out week-old chip paper, I call BS.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Been Red all of my life, but anyone voting this way right now needs to take a deep breath and step back.

Because the actual Home Secretary is so competent on figures herself - https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...iculed-police-federation-over-foodbank-answer

 

[Is it PotG?]

Seriously, you are going back to the Abbott interview like no one saw it before!? Like we don't know Hammond made a similar gaff with a £20bn mistake with HS2 - and he is the friggin chancellor, and it barely got covered!

Bollocks you've been Red all your life and now you're voting Tory. Absolute bollocks.

If you say so Brighton Young Socialists in the 80s and 90s blah de blah. Sad but true, whether you accept it or not. Not alone either. Corbyn is unelectable.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Someone who'd been red all their life would perhaps be pointing out the ineptitude, u-turning flim flam and general hopelessness of Theresa May today, not digging out week-old chip paper, I call BS.

Righto

 

[Bozza]

If you say so Brighton Young Socialists blah de blah. Sad but true, whether you accept it or not. Not alone either. Corbyn is unelectable.

As "vote for a pig with a red rosette" [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] told us: Corbyn has no authority and can't lead. And that was in reference to a political party, not a whole sodding country.

What a dreadful choice the electorate has been given to make.

 

[Is it PotG?]

As "vote for a pig with a red rosette" [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] told us: Corbyn has no authority and can't lead. And that was in reference to a political party, not a whole sodding country.

What a dreadful choice the electorate has been given to make.

Absolute mess indeed.

 

[Bold Seagull]

If you say so Brighton Young Socialists in the 80s and 90s blah de blah. Sad but true, whether you accept it or not. Not alone either. Corbyn is unelectable.

That doesn't equate to voting for the antithesis of what you believe in because of one person. I might agree with you on his electability, but given all the negative press, the media campaign against his character, his ability to lead, perhaps as great a character assassination any modern leader has had to endure through the press, and yet the polls suggest his popularity is growing, the polling for Labour is growing. I don't think he'll be elected, but I am impressed of the fight he is making of this election, and the conviction he is showing in his beliefs. He isn't changing his mind because the shit hits the fan 3 days later, he's stood by it and people are listening.

Even if this voting for Labour only leads to a series of climb downs by the Tories on things like Social Care, the NHS, then I'll still consider that small victories.

 

[Bold Seagull]

As "vote for a pig with a red rosette" [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] told us: Corbyn has no authority and can't lead. And that was in reference to a political party, not a whole sodding country.

What a dreadful choice the electorate has been given to make.

You can hardly now decide to take Ernest as the voice of reason all of a sudden.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Nutty Nuttall of the ukips is on tomorrow that should be a good laugh.

 

[Bozza]

General Election - New poll added 21/05/17

You can hardly now decide to take Ernest as the voice of reason all of a sudden.

I'm certainly not doing that. But it really says something when someone as looney left as him denounced Corbyn in such strong terms.

There were others that I do respect such as [MENTION=4251]ROSM[/MENTION] and [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION] who both, I recall, left the Labour Party due to Corbyn. Again - not ringing endorsements.

 

[vegster]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

There are just as many "Diane Abbotts" in the Tory Party, just look at Boris FFS! I personally generally dislike the women (although I think her hearts in the right place on certain issues) but would trust her overall integrity over Boris' any day of the week! No matter how daft she comes across sometimes...

Indeed there are, Amber Rudd spouted that police constables were earning £40K a year to much derision at the police federation conference, and of course the fragrant Andrea Leadsome who actually made it to the final two considered for the Tory leadership !

 

[Guinness Boy]

That doesn't equate to voting for the antithesis of what you believe in because of one person. I might agree with you on his electability, but given all the negative press, the media campaign against his character, his ability to lead, perhaps as great a character assassination any modern leader has had to endure through the press, and yet the polls suggest his popularity is growing, the polling for Labour is growing. I don't think he'll be elected, but I am impressed of the fight he is making of this election, and the conviction he is showing in his beliefs. He isn't changing his mind because the shit hits the fan 3 days later, he's stood by it and people are listening.

Even if this voting for Labour only leads to a series of climb downs by the Tories on things like Social Care, the NHS, then I'll still consider that small victories.

Absolutely this.

Corbyn is showing 300 times the balls he showed in the EU Referendum because he really believes in what he's talking about this time, Abbot is a scary buffoon but so is Boris. May has shown herself to be anything but strong and stable. Tim Farron only has to show his weasel-faced churchiness for about 10 seconds to remind me that the Lib Dems, for all I agree with them on Europe, are still the party of Bellotti and Baker. God knows why I even considered them.

We are still caught between a rock and a hard place. We are still f***ed. But I'm facing up to my democratic duty by picking the manifesto I prefer and the politician that believes in it - and that's Labour.

 

[spring hall convert]

Jeremy Corbyn has had nearly two years of being slaughtered by the press daily and has got stronger. Theresa May has had two days of justified criticism and she looks like she's going to cry.

Her performance on Andrew Neill was abysmal, lies, evasion and soundbites. She seems to think its acceptable to have a manifesto that's a series of wooly principles rather than policy.

She's in trouble. And remember anything less than a significantly increased majority is an abject failure.

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[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Leadsom is awful and she's Environment Secretary.

Oh and let's not forget that May herself is a failed Home Secretary.

 

[Bozza]

Absolutely this.

Corbyn is showing 300 times the balls he showed in the EU Referendum because he really believes in what he's talking about this time, Abbot is a scary buffoon but so is Boris. May has shown herself to be anything but strong and stable. Tim Farron only has to show his weasel-faced churchiness for about 10 seconds to remind me that the Lib Dems, for all I agree with them on Europe, are still the party of Bellotti and Baker. God knows why I even considered them.

We are still caught between a rock and a hard place. We are still f***ed. But I'm facing up to my democratic duty by picking the manifesto I prefer and the politician that believes in it - and that's Labour.

As an aside, I do wish they'd found a way to bring Clegg back for this election. I have a lot of time for him.

 

[nicko31]

I thought she was going to chin Andrew Neill at the end, that was a painful half hour for the Tories, cue more smears about Corbyn in tomorrow's Daily Mail

She knows taxes are going to have to go up, why can't she just be honest. Watch out white van man, Theresa will be back for your NI.

After that half hour I can see why she bottled it on the debate

 

[Bold Seagull]

I'm certainly not doing that. But it really says something when someone as looney left as him denounced Corbyn in such strong terms.

There were others that I do respect such as [MENTION=4251]ROSM[/MENTION] and [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION] who both, I recall, left the Labour Party due to Corbyn. Again - not ringing endorsements.

I've not been his biggest fan by a long chalk, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the impact that appears to be surrounding their campaign, and you cannot say it is not having an unforeseen major impact on this election. The electoral coverage rules are now in force, so the media are required to give balanced impartial coverage, which perhaps starts to work in his favour, or not.