General Election 2017

[Gwylan]

Queen's Speech rebellion results in shambles as SIX members of the Labour Shadow Cabinet are unceremoniously booted out by Jezza.

#ithasstartedalready

... or in the real world, none of the Shadow Cabinet are 'booted out'.
#madeupstatistics

 

[Baldseagull]

Indefensible position = Leading a party that is committed to retaining a nuclear deterrent .. a policy he doesn't support, costing tens of billions when he always bangs on about more spending being needed for public services. Where are his principles?

He has put his own views aside as the party he represents democratically came to the conclusion of going ahead with Trident renewal. I seem to recall you liking the idea that once a democratic decision has been made, those against should shut up and get on with it.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

It is the political fallout of most referendums. Incompatible with parliamentary party politics.

Incompatible if there is weak ineffectual leadership.

 

[portslade seagull]

You're 100% right about it being deliberately run into the ground it's just a shame the majority of the general public can't see it!

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You need to see the wastage before you say that. Runs into millions. I know as brother in law was brought in to sort a trust out. Whatever he tried they ignored and kept losing money. Just with stores he could've saved 6m but none of the consultants wanted to know. They paid him £550 a day for two years to ignore whatever he put forward. They need to sort themselves out.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Incompatible if there is weak ineffectual leadership.

Not stopping the Tories giving it a valiant bash for a while though, is it.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

He has put his own views aside as the party he represents democratically came to the conclusion of going ahead with Trident renewal. I seem to recall you liking the idea that once a democratic decision has been made, those against should shut up and get on with it.

Shirley any man of real principle couldn't lead a party committed to a policy he fundamentally opposes and has argued against his entire life.

 

[bWize]

You need to see the wastage before you say that. Runs into millions. I know as brother in law was brought in to sort a trust out. Whatever he tried they ignored and kept losing money. Just with stores he could've saved 6m but none of the consultants wanted to know. They paid him £550 a day for two years to ignore whatever he put forward. They need to sort themselves out.

Isn't that running it in to the ground?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Not stopping the Tories giving it a valiant bash for a while though, is it.

Might be longer than a while if Labour carries on like this.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Isn't that running it in to the ground?

I believe he said that the administration needs to be rebooted.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

You need to see the wastage before you say that. Runs into millions. I know as brother in law was brought in to sort a trust out. Whatever he tried they ignored and kept losing money. Just with stores he could've saved 6m but none of the consultants wanted to know. They paid him £550 a day for two years to ignore whatever he put forward. They need to sort themselves out.

Exactly, the money is there it's just going to the wrong people! WHY is it so hard for people to realise!!

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[Baldseagull]

Shirley any man of real principle couldn't lead a party committed to a policy he fundamentally opposes and has argued against his entire life.

Should then Farage not have put himself forward for a job he believed should not exist, as a British MEP?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

It's actually quite sickening that the majority of people in this country would happily see all the services we hold dear sold off to private companies, SICKENING and despicable, you should be ashamed of yourselves because the rest of the country is.

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[JC Footy Genius]

Should then Farage not have put himself forward for a job he believed should not exist, as a British MEP?

Farage led a party with the central purpose of taking us out of the Eu and causing trouble in the parliament he succeeded on all counts. Corbyn's position on Trident would be like Ken Clarke leading UKIP

 

[ManOfSussex]

Farage led a party with the central purpose of taking us out of the Eu and causing trouble in the parliament he succeeded on all counts. Corbyn's position on Trident would be like Ken Clarke leading UKIP

May's leading The Tories though (sort of) and seems to have managed to put her personal views on Brexit to one side though.

 

[Titanic]

... or in the real world, none of the Shadow Cabinet are 'booted out'.
#madeupstatistics

Labour Front Bench Shadow ministers Catherine West (Shadow Foreign Office Minister), Rupa Huq (Shadow Home Office Minister), Gareth Thomas (Shadow Minister Communities and Local Government), Andy Slaughter (Shadow Minister for Housing) and Ruth Cadbury (Shadow Minister for Housing) were all dismissed while a sixth, Daniel Zeichner (Shadow Minister for Transport) jumped before he was booted out as well.

#utterchaos

 

[JC Footy Genius]

May's leading The Tories though (sort of) and seems to have managed to put her personal views on Brexit to one side though.

Yes because she was part of the government that agreed to put the decision to the people and abide by the decision. She was also a lukewarm remainer and didn't have a life long supposedly principled stance unlike Corbyn re Nuclear weapons.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Should then Farage not have put himself forward for a job he believed should not exist, as a British MEP?

Or as been said, Theresa May to apply to lead a party committed to Brexit. (Actually, I think we can all agree she wasn't really a Remainer - she just thought they would win and wanted to preserve her career. Doesn't say much for her principles though.)

 

[portslade seagull]

It's actually quite sickening that the majority of people in this country would happily see all the services we hold dear sold off to private companies, SICKENING and despicable, you should be ashamed of yourselves because the rest of the country is.

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The NHS is by stealth

 

[ManOfSussex]

Yes because she was part of the government that agreed to put the decision to the people and abide by the decision. She was also a lukewarm remainer and didn't have a life long supposedly principled stance unlike Corbyn re Nuclear weapons.

Like Corbyn abides by the Labour Party's decision, through a vote, to keep Trident?

Smears on Corbyn don't work - try finding something positive to say about The Tories to tell people instead.

 

[portslade seagull]

Isn't that running it in to the ground?

More like running it with blinkers on and fingers in there ears. You wouldn't believe the management to nurse ratio. Very top heavy