General Election 2017

[The Clamp]

But as Henry Rollins said "we play for the A team". Being white, western, male, educated, healthy we are unlikely to get hassle. Same as stop and search (or it's US equivalent of being shot dead*). Never happened to me....but then I'm not black.

PS I think the quote is from Rollins.



* joke

Governments are happy to have well off white folk flying about buying extra large soda's and consuming tat. To use another Rollins quote "it keeps the lights on and the shop open".

Poor and brown who don't waste money on non essential consumer goods but instead travel to make a better life or god forbid, escape persecution and war are not encouraged to travel so much.

Don't fret though, they'll come for whitey too , soon enough.

 

[Silk]

Theresa May is the biggest example of "bottling it" that I've seen. If she still wins the election, it will be because she had a decent head start and a short enough campaign not to completely destroy all her support. A coward, unable and unwilling to stand up and defend her own governments record. She's making herself look anything but strong and stable.

I take that back. Latest Times/yougov poll has Conservatives at 42%, Labour at 39%. As against 48% 24% at the start. This could turn out to be a much more interesting election than expected.

 

[Buzzer]

By the way, I have been detained at an airport and questioned and missed my flight (although given a seat on a later flight). 2006 at Heathrow, I was held for a few hours whilst police did checks that I wasn't a known football hooligan on the way to the World Cup. I've even got a card to prove it somewhere. I no doubt fitted a profile, the England top in my hold-all also gave them further suspicions and though it was annoying at the time, I don't bear the police much ill-will about it, I understand why they did it, why they singled me out and I don't think it's indicative of a police state.

 

[Soulman]

You could always pull up Corbyn's record for voting on anti-terrorism legislation. To his credit, he's consistent. Not a single bill backed since 1983. He's even bragged about it: "I’ve been involved in opposing anti-terror legislation ever since I first went into Parliament in 1983" were the words used. There's a fair few voters who get a bit upset about left-wing MPs who do things like that. Some...not me..might also call that evil.

His stance on the Falklands says to me that he would be weak for the UK on EU talks.

FURIOUS Falkland Islanders have branded Jeremy Corbyn a “hypocrite” over his pledge to give up British sovereignty in a power-sharing deal with Argentina.
Dick Sawle, a former Member of the Island’s Legislative Assembly, said "How can a politician who clams to care so much about human rights blatantly ignore the most fundamental human right of all – the democratic will of a sovereign people "......
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/60...hypocrite-Argentina-pledge-power-sharing-deal

 

[Bozza]

Odds on May to be the next PM are shortening again.

The head of ComRes has just been on the 5 Live. The main reason was to talk about the audience in the debate programme. He basically said when you have 5 parties on the left and just 1 on the right, it's no great surprise to get the reactions they did from a representative audience. Makes sense.

They moved onto the current polling disparity. ComRes have a large Tory lead of 12 points currently. He said if they're wrong with that then it will be the first time polls have not underestimated Tory support since 1983.

 

[nicko31]

May got trounced last night and she hadn't even bothered to turn up. She's a laughing stock and ****wits will still vote for her.[/QUOTE

Think allowing Rudd to do this in her personal circumstances says a lot about May.

JC did himself no harm but no knockout blow

Polls are narrowing but no way 3% gap, think 8-10% is more like it

 

[Soulman]

The election is a week tomorrow. Can we have a new poll?

We have poll after poll on here, it is never go to show the outcome. Labour were due to win the last elections, according to the polls on here, Remain was going to easily win, according to NSC, and now Labour are in front again.
The Brighton area and NSC do not reflect nationwide, same as the audience last night, the board is loaded with far left leaning posters.

 

[studio150]

This would have been around about the time that lots of young men were off to join ISIS, I'm guessing so could explain it. I don't know but quoting stats in isolation is meaningless so perhaps some context from yourself. What were they for, how many were legitimate based on intel and how many were speculative? And what proportion of all people travelling through UK airports and international train stations does that represent? Why have you only selected 2011/12? Was that the peak that you are quoting without context? Are those separate people or do they include persons detained multiple times?

You seem determined to paint this as an example of a police state so I'm sure you'll have at least one or two answers to those questions.

I have only selected that year because that seems to be the only one available. Requests under FOI have been declined to the security exemption under FOI.

So you will have to wait for many years to find out

 

[Silk]

Odds on May to be the next PM are shortening again.

The head of ComRes has just been on the 5 Live. The main reason was to talk about the audience in the debate programme. He basically said when you have 5 parties on the left and just 1 on the right, it's no great surprise to get the reactions they did from a representative audience. Makes sense.

They moved onto the current polling disparity. ComRes have a large Tory lead of 12 points currently. He said if they're wrong with that then it will be the first time polls have not underestimated Tory support since 1983.

A pollster that can't count.. Unless he thinks one of those parties is dead centre.

 

[nicko31]

His stance on the Falklands says to me that he would be weak for the UK on EU talks.

FURIOUS Falkland Islanders have branded Jeremy Corbyn a “hypocrite” over his pledge to give up British sovereignty in a power-sharing deal with Argentina.
Dick Sawle, a former Member of the Island’s Legislative Assembly, said "How can a politician who clams to care so much about human rights blatantly ignore the most fundamental human right of all – the democratic will of a sovereign people "......
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/60...hypocrite-Argentina-pledge-power-sharing-deal

These little dots in the Atlantic are mighty expensive to keep going with little benefit to us. Take the £300m AP just completed in St. Helena.

 

[neilbard]

Odds on May to be the next PM are shortening again.

The head of ComRes has just been on the 5 Live. The main reason was to talk about the audience in the debate programme. He basically said when you have 5 parties on the left and just 1 on the right, it's no great surprise to get the reactions they did from a representative audience. Makes sense.

They moved onto the current polling disparity. ComRes have a large Tory lead of 12 points currently. He said if they're wrong with that then it will be the first time polls have not underestimated Tory support since 1983.

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[Silk]

May got trounced last night and she hadn't even bothered to turn up. She's a laughing stock and ****wits will still vote for her.[/QUOTE

Think allowing Rudd to do this in her personal circumstances says a lot about May.

JC did himself no harm but no knockout blow

Polls are narrowing but no way 3% gap, think 8-10% is more like it

To be fair to Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn's calculated ambush was a win/win scenario for Labour. The no-show made her look weak, but she'd have looked even weaker if she'd followed his lead and changed her mind. Labour clearly outwitted the Conservatives here.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

We have poll after poll on here, it is never go to show the outcome. Labour were due to win the last elections, according to the polls on here, Remain was going to easily win, according to NSC, and now Labour are in front again.
The Brighton area and NSC do not reflect nationwide, same as the audience last night, the board is loaded with far left leaning posters.

80-120 Seat Tory majority with much wailing and spittle flying around NSC 10pm next Thursday

 

[Moshe Gariani]

They moved onto the current polling disparity. ComRes have a large Tory lead of 12 points currently. He said if they're wrong with that then it will be the first time polls have not underestimated Tory support since 1983.

Every chance that it might be "different" this time. In fact, it would be surprising if it wasn't.

My hope is that support for Labour is currently on a very sharp upward curve and polling information even from just a few days ago thus underestimates how many will vote Labour next Thursday.

The whole "ashamed to admit to voting Tory" thing observed in the past is very understandable but this time round I think it might be more than balanced by the millions that are only slowly cottoning on to JC as the election campaign unfolds.

 

[Ernest]

80-120 Seat Tory majority with much wailing and spittle flying around NSC 10pm next Thursday

If the result is known at 10pm next Thursday it can only mean the Tories have fiddled the results

 

[JC Footy Genius]

If the result is known at 10pm next Thursday it can only mean the Tories have fiddled the results

The exit poll is normally a very good indicator .. announced at 10pm, bring your tissues.

 

[Soulman]

These little dots in the Atlantic are mighty expensive to keep going with little benefit to us. Take the £300m AP just completed in St. Helena.

And you put yourself forward as a supporter of the "caring" party. I reckon that £300m is a "dot" on our finances, we could even include it as foreign aid if it would sit better with you.

 

[Ernest]

People of Hastings do your job and vote for anyone but her

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/05/ambder-rudd-really-horrible/

 

[ManOfSussex]

And you put yourself forward as a supporter of the "caring" party. I reckon that £300m is a "dot" on our finances, we could even include it as foreign aid if it would sit better with you.

It already is.

 

[nicko31]

The exit poll is normally a very good indicator .. announced at 10pm, bring your tissues.

Think the poor haven't been about to afford them since 2010