Well quite. Would be nice to see that assuming smirk wiped off her face though.
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General Election 2017
- Thread starter Giraffe
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Well quite. Would be nice to see that assuming smirk wiped off her face though.
That is so what I want as as well
jakarta
Well-known member
An upset involves a 20% plus change in voting intentions over the next 6 weeks - really?
The Tories will be back in for the next 5 years and hopefully Labour will realise the total f*ck up they have made in the last 12 months or so.
If they are a serious Political Party they need to do some housekeeping...
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Think May has done a good job all things considered. Listening to Corbyn on the radio at the start of his rally, sounded like something from the 1980's. Labour are still going backwards. As for the Lib Dems, they are going to do a lot better than they did last time, but hopefully people like Farron will shut the FK up about Brexit after this.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Didn't Trump manage it in less time?
OK, so who would you like to be the next PM?
Without realising it you've hit the nail on the head there. The sole purpose of this election, the sole purpose, is to silence anyone who dares critisise Brexit. We are moving closer and closer to a tyrannical dictatorship and the irony of it all is we are being forced to vote for it. Only the voluntarily blind cannot see that.
The general election should at least offer a clearer more up to date version of the referendum and therefore seems necessary and wholly appropriate, you, me and others have continually said what we felt Leave meant and it kept the Brexit thread going for months and months, with claim and counter claim, well this might clear it up a bit, it will at least be current.
The result might not represent your own view on Brexit, but so what, thats democracy.
Democracy is two foxes and a chicken voting on what to have for dinner. Anyhow, it's no surprise and I can't be arsed to get involved with all this rubs while so much positive exciting stuff is happening at our club.
Down with May
Up with BHA
Unfortunately unable to give you a half thumbs up ..............
Well, if the Labour Party got their act together, there would at least be a credible opposition to this 'Tyrannical Dictatorship' that you seem to imagine.
Quite frankly, to call our Government a tyrannical dictatorship is complete drivel and an insult to those poor buggers in other parts of the world who really have suffered from such a regime.
Get a grip.
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
kind of. Tories will get 40%-ish and claim this is some kind of second big-mandate for Brexit - which it won't be as they cannot get as much as 52% of the vote this time round. So if anything it muddies the water?
I do wonder where the big swing will be to give her this massive majority. Tories did a pretty damn good job last time of hoovering up the swing seats in the south and the midlands. There are just 13 non-Tory seats south of Birmingham and outside of London in England, and one of those is Carswell. Without being able to make any inroads in Scotland and with the Lib-dems bound to bounce back in the SW and London, can it be all that different? Or will Labour just fall off the cliff in the north and the capital (with UKIP/apathy doing for them?)
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. My constituency of St Ives is the most western in England, Tories took it in 2015 with a 5% swing from Libdem and I suppose that majority of 2,500 has a chance of being overturned. Although the constituency had a narrow pro-Brexit vote, so perhaps we're looking further east to Truro and Falmouth which voted Remain.
Key difference: polling has consistently underestimated support for the right and overestimated the left. Having said that, those of us who don't want a heavy right government can maybe hope that the polling companies have "over corrected" and are now underestimating support for the left.
It's still a difficult one to see happen. Trump "swam with the tide" when he beat the polls. As did Brexit. I don't think the tide has turned enough, so any surge in support for the left will be "against the tide". Corbyn's not the leader the left needs to push through. Especially as he's not going to appeal to the more centrist voters out there (he's too far left).
I think the best we can hope for is for Labour to hold onto their "safe" seats and regain some that they marginally lost in Remain areas, the SNP to clean up in Scotland, some non-Tory gains in Wales, and for the Lib Dems to pick their battles wisely. For LD it's not about trying to regain the same seats they lost last time around. It's about fielding the best candidates they can in pro-Remain seats that have pro-Brexit Tory MPs, and hitting them hard. Forget the national vote, and go for maximising local conditions. Maybe, just maybe, all that combined can result in a reduced Tory majority, and with a higher proportion of either pro-Remain or at least "soft" Brexit MPs in the Tory ranks.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Corbyn is starting to say the right things, and on just day 2. By day 50 people may have warmed to him.
I'm dreaming I know, there are far too many selfless twunts in this country for the Tories not to win.
I'm dreaming I know, there are far too many selfless twunts in this country for the Tories not to win.
jakarta
Well-known member
Yes I agree 50 people may have warmed to him by Polling Day, Labour's problem is the other 50 million or so...
pastafarian
Well-known member
He is indeed
His promise of "riches for all" pricked my ears up.
i want to be stinking rich and have a permanent holiday. looks like Jeremy has my back.
daveybgtt
New member
Can you imagine Jezza representing our country on the world stage?
I imagine the question " Who the f**k is this silly old sod" would not be very far from people lips. I'm sure he would stand up to Putin, Merkel, Trump et al.
I imagine the question " Who the f**k is this silly old sod" would not be very far from people lips. I'm sure he would stand up to Putin, Merkel, Trump et al.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
Wow. 149/396 would vote Tory.
Perhaps we're not as liberal as everyone thinks we are.
Perhaps we're not as liberal as everyone thinks we are.
Weststander
Well-known member
Labour now and millions of Labour voters fully back Brexit, so the combined voted gives the mandate you touch on. Leaving the EU wasn't a Toreis against everyone else concept. It was and is a single issue supported by millions from all parties, other that the LibDems.
The BBC went to South West england earlier this week. They stated that outside of Bath (perhaps they should also have said Bristol? I don't know), there was an emphatic leave vote last year. The same with SE England where 55% voted leave.
SW seats are low in number and insignificant. It's the marginals in the Midland and in North England that will decide the size of Corbyns defeat.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Boris Johnson currently represents our interests amongst foreign ministers the world over so not that unlikely.