[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

[Titanic]

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting Match of the Day until agreement reached on social media use - BBC statement

www.bbc.co.uk

Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".

 

[Bakero]

Bitter old man.

That's the impression I got. Agreeing to appear on GBeebies was the first sign.

 

[BadFish]

Doesn't mean its not real or its something instigated by the tories, problem with that shtik is it began in the USA.

I watched this a week or so ago. I found it an interesting take on the origins of the 'culture wars'.

 

[BadFish]

That's the impression I got. Agreeing to appear on GBeebies was the first sign.

Now claiming he was joking, hard to tell one way or the other with Lawro isn't it.

 

[BadFish]

The irony of this monologue was that LBC went to the news after it and described the small boat route as illegal. The idea has been successfully ingrained in people's minds as truth and forms the basis for the government's policy. Sadly the basis for the policy is false

 

[Guinness Boy]

Is he admitting the Tories have pushed around the BBC?

Or is he calling social media users and journalists “privileged and overpaid elites”?

The actual state of the Tory party. F***ing hell

 

[The Clamp]

Squeezing a bit more out of it. Tomorrow’s Mail. The answer, for those at the back of the class is she said it on the BBC, he said it on Twitter.

 

[BadFish]

Whether comparing language or policy - as a Jewish person I still find it offensive-

People Seem to think that
I agree with the Gvt immigration policies, I don’t and that wasn’t the point of my post but as a Jewish person who’s grandparents suffered terribly under Nazi rule, I have a right (without the pile on by people who have no experience of that) to find comparisons of UK Gvt language to that period of history belittling the horrific extermination of millions of Jews. That’s my personal point of view based on very specific experiences.

Like I said, the finger should be pointed at the Assad regime other regimes around the world who are responsible for modern day genocide and ethnic cleansing which is why we have a refugee crisis in the first place and 100 million people worldwide who are forcibly displaced from their homeland - 1% of the world’s population.

But we remain silent because when it comes to oil producing regimes (in particular) and/or geo- politically advantageous territories, arms deals etc, it’s more expedient to live with the fall out of refugees than accept responsibility for our role in enabling refugee crises in the first place.

I can understand why you would find policy comparisons offensive, as you say his would belittle what happened. It is the language part that i find more difficult to understand? Do you agree that the language is not dissimilar to that of 1930's Germany? Why is a view that their are similarities so insulting to you?

 

[Triggaaar]

Is he admitting the Tories have pushed around the BBC?

Or is he calling social media users and journalists “privileged and overpaid elites”?

The actual state of the Tory party. F***ing hell

Farcical, with zero self awareness.

 

[Bodian]

Squeezing a bit more out of it. Tomorrow’s Mail. The answer, for those at the back of the class is she said it on the BBC, he said it on Twitter.

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Don't think she's been censured by the BBC either anyway?

 

[Triggaaar]

Squeezing a bit more out of it. Tomorrow’s Mail. The answer, for those at the back of the class is she said it on the BBC, he said it on Twitter.

And he was dropped by the BBC, but she wasn't. Had she been dropped, for clarifying something from a legal point of view, I imagine she'd have got some support from colleagues too.

 

[Triggaaar]

Don't think she's been censured by the BBC either anyway?

Indeed, just the Mail being crap as always.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And he was dropped by the BBC, but she wasn't. Had she been dropped, for clarifying something from a legal point of view, I imagine she'd have got some support from colleagues too.

As I said on the other threads, complaints were made to Refuge from dv victims. It is Refuge who have taken action. Bruce is still in a job.

 

[GT49er]

Can't understand why this thread is still classified as 'football' (if indeed it ever should have been). Hopefully soon in the Bear Pit - Bozza's Albion only filter is a good idea, but there are interesting threads on other topics too. Still, I can just carry on ignoring this thread, as I have been doing for the last couple of days anyway.
Wonder what it'll take to get it shoved into there.......?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Re the Law -

Since the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 from 28 July last year (amending the Immigration Act 1971) it’s become much harder to enter the country legally, anybody entering the UK without a Visa and claims asylum will be in breach of Section 40 - anyone that requires leave to enter the UK (ie through a visa, citizenship or passport etc) and knowingly enters the UK without such leave, under the NABA, 2022 commits an offence. However, it is not possible to claim asylum from outside the UK, and there is no visa which allows people to enter the UK in order to claim asylum - Under NABA
this offence carries a maximum sentence of 4 years (5 years for people who re-enter the UK in breach of a deportation order).

Of course it is not illegal to claim asylum but the only way to do it (unless through a refugee resettlement programme) is to enter the country without documentation by arriving in a small boat or the back of a lorry and then make the claim once in the UK.

The misunderstanding is on the side of those that don’t realise that you have to have already broken the law by arriving in a Country without documentation and getting into the UK illegally since you can’t apply for asylum from outside the UK and there are no visas for Asylum seekers - and conflating that with the legality of then claiming asylum. Two separate issues.

When we refer to ‘illegal immigration’ we refer to people entering the Country illegally not the process of applying for Asylum once they arrive.

Nationality and Borders Act 2022

www.legislation.gov.uk

My legal qualifications are minimal, so I’ll let this barrister explain it for me.

 

[Zeberdi]

I can understand why you would find policy comparisons offensive, as you say his would belittle what happened. It is the language part that i find more difficult to understand? Do you agree that the language is not dissimilar to that of 1930's Germany? Why is a view that their are similarities so insulting to you?

I don’t really need to justify how I feel - it’s personal.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Can't understand why this thread is still classified as 'football' (if indeed it ever should have been). Hopefully soon in the Bear Pit - Bozza's Albion only filter is a good idea, but there are interesting threads on other topics too. Still, I can just carry on ignoring this thread, as I have been doing for the last couple of days anyway.
Wonder what it'll take to get it shoved into there.......?

As Rio Ferdinand would say 1 billion per cent Gary

 

[BadFish]

Can't understand why this thread is still classified as 'football' (if indeed it ever should have been). Hopefully soon in the Bear Pit - Bozza's Albion only filter is a good idea, but there are interesting threads on other topics too. Still, I can just carry on ignoring this thread, as I have been doing for the last couple of days anyway.
Wonder what it'll take to get it shoved into there.......?

So you just popped into the thread to share your disapproval of it and let us all know that you are continuing to ignore it.

Thanks for that.

Gotta love the social media age.

 

[The Clamp]

Can't understand why this thread is still classified as 'football' (if indeed it ever should have been). Hopefully soon in the Bear Pit - Bozza's Albion only filter is a good idea, but there are interesting threads on other topics too. Still, I can just carry on ignoring this thread, as I have been doing for the last couple of days anyway.
Wonder what it'll take to get it shoved into there.......?

What it would take is for it to descend into name calling, baiting and bullying. So far as I know, this has been nothing but an interesting, reasoned debate with no such idiocy.

It’s been a big news story and continues to be rather interesting.

Don’t fret, like nearly every single thread on here, it’ll fizzle out when people move on. No need for anyone to come in and demand it’s removal, is there?

As always, nice of you to pop your head in and let us know you’re still ignoring the thread

 

[BadFish]

I don’t really need to justify how I feel - it’s personal.

Fair enough. For the record though, I wasn't asking you to justify anything I was just seeking to understand.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Can't understand why this thread is still classified as 'football' (if indeed it ever should have been). Hopefully soon in the Bear Pit - Bozza's Albion only filter is a good idea, but there are interesting threads on other topics too. Still, I can just carry on ignoring this thread, as I have been doing for the last couple of days anyway.
Wonder what it'll take to get it shoved into there.......?

There is nothing in this thread which warrants it being moved to the Bear Pit. No insults, no ad hominem attacks, or even trolling.
Yes it makes for uncomfortable reading, but this government’s actions make for uncomfortable living right now.
Five years ago the Tories tried to deliberately change the rules on Caribbean people living here, and deported people who had never lived in Jamaica or other islands nearby.
It is called the Windrush scandal. Amber Rudd was forced to resign over it, but she wasn’t the instigator. Theresa May introduced the Hostile Environment but even she abstained from the vote last night.

If you don’t want to know what’s going on in this country, then ignore it, turn a blind eye, but don’t complain when some of us want to return to sanity.