[Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

[Titanic]

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

Gary Lineker to step back from presenting Match of the Day until agreement reached on social media use - BBC statement

www.bbc.co.uk

Gary Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day until an agreement is reached on his social media use - BBC statement.
It follows an impartiality row over comments he made criticising the government's new asylum policy.
In a tweet, the presenter had compared the language used by the government to set out its plan to "that used by Germany in the 30s".

 

[LamieRobertson]

Government website which I can’t find right now but this article states 200 odd migrants which fits in with 40 odd boats.

How many people are crossing the Channel compared with previous years and which countries are they from?

Five times as many migrants crossed the Channel to the UK in the first eight months of this year compared with the same period last year, Sky News can reveal.

news.sky.com

barrowcadbury report suggests 300 boats ….still small

 

[BadFish]

You can't help yourself can you. First we are friends despite never having met.Then you ascribe ownership of the right wing press to me without having a clue which papers or periodicals I actually read if any.
To remind you the question I posed is what is the answer to the immigration problem put forward by the other UK political parties, not what the UN or other countries might say

As a point of order, when using the 'your' I was referring to the UK"s right wing press not yours personally.

I dare say that the Labour party will include their plan in their manifesto before the election. However, their plan will be affected by the control that your (the UK's) right wing press has over the electorate.

Why do you need them to give their answer now? It is fair to assume that it will most likely adhere to the UN human rights and Refugee policy as I think only Russia and one other country in Europe do not. That may be two others if the tories get there way. So it is likely to be an improvement.

Personally, I think that the UN is a good place to start, I believe the human rights stuff was started by Churchill, what i have read is sound. The same can be said for the refugee conventions. It is all there and ready to go. One has to ask why the Tories choose to make this such a difficult problem to deal with, it really isn't. In 13 years they should have got their shit together - you have got to wonder why they haven't?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Can I suggest in any of the countries they travelled through to reach the Channel coast

The vast majority of them do. Britain takes in fewer than most European countries as a percentage of population. If you are an Afghan interpreter working for the British forces, abandoned in Kabul last year, promised safety, but the Taliban want to kill you, wouldn’t you try to get to Britain?
A chart I have posted several times today to show how few Britain actuall take.

 

[portlock seagull]

The Bungling Broadcasting Corporation couldn't have handled this any worse.

The tiny molehill has become a mountain and they've shone the spotlight on Lineker's tweet words.

If they'd just done nothing nobody would be thinking about this tonight or over the weekend.

OwnGoal-tastic !

You say no one…except the Home sec who I believe would be thinking about it still?!

 

[BadFish]

Cometh the Hour, Cometh the Man, Ian Hart it is your time. Arise.

The ex Leeds left back?

 

[Insel affe]

It depends. People escaping war, persecution, conflict or violence, I agree with you.

Others coming to the UK uninvited and not subject to the above, we should have a system. To my knowledge no western country has an unlimited open doors policy. The deportation numbers from our nearest neighbours are accelerating fast.

I support free speech of course. But I don’t believe in likening us to a regime where the murders of opponents and Jews started almost on day one. Imho rhetoric or wild exaggeration should be the preserve of ill informed keyboard warriors.

I agree on with you reference, this is nothing like the beginning of Hitlers rise to power, and it is somewhat a headline sensationalist look at me statement.
playing devil’s advocate I can also see, nationalism starts somewhere, although even I seriously doubt Rishi Sunak is the advocating what Gary is implying.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I would love to know what happened today after the bbc said no rules broken yesterday. Here are the rules.

Pressure from the BBC board aka friends and donors to Tories.

 

[portlock seagull]

I saw that tweet and wondered: if they don't have the TV commentators, would they be able to use local radio commentary - first thinking Cantor and Aspinall on MotD would be quite a highlight for them (as much as the circumstances allow), then wondering if they would also refuse to commentate if this was going to happen, and what that would mean for those of us (hoping to be) listening to the game instead of travelling.

Then wondering if the crowds could do anything. Chanting for Lineker, chanting "F the tories" for 90mins etc. But I suspect they would just use production to remove it.

We can’t manage Seagulls, Seagulls half the time. Not sure the Amex is the place to recreate Spartacus

 

[jackalbion]

The ex Leeds left back?

Yes

 

[Wokeworrier]

Does anyone know if old jug ears had settled his tax battle with HMRC yet?

Gary Lineker’s political tweets could help him avoid £4.9m tax bill

Presenter’s tweets on Brexit and Tories could form part of case that he is not a typical BBC or BT Sport employee

www.theguardian.com

 

[clapham_gull]

How do you discipline self employed people?

Far more easily than you discipline the employed.

 

[portlock seagull]

I agree on with you reference, this is nothing like the beginning of Hitlers rise to power, and it is somewhat a headline sensationalist look at me statement.
playing devil’s advocate I can also see, nationalism starts somewhere, although even I seriously doubt Rishi Sunak is the advocating what Gary is implying.

This is all it’s really about. Without the 1930 Germany comparison it wouldn’t have generated todays storm of controversy.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Does anyone know if old jug ears had settled his tax battle with HMRC yet?

Gary Lineker’s political tweets could help him avoid £4.9m tax bill

Presenter’s tweets on Brexit and Tories could form part of case that he is not a typical BBC or BT Sport employee

www.theguardian.com

Wake up at the back. It was all settled in July 2021 when Lineker proved his was self employed not an employee.

 

[Eric the meek]

Does anyone know if old jug ears had settled his tax battle with HMRC yet?

Gary Lineker’s political tweets could help him avoid £4.9m tax bill

Presenter’s tweets on Brexit and Tories could form part of case that he is not a typical BBC or BT Sport employee

www.theguardian.com

That's the spirit !
If all else fails, dig up some dirt on him!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Far more easily than you discipline the employed.

Yet as I posted in post 606, a BBC journalist apologised to Lineker because the impartiality clause didn’t apply to him.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That's the spirit !
If all else fails, dig up some dirt on him!

there is no dirt. Desperation setting in.

 

[Wokeworrier]

Wake up at the back. It was all settled in July 2021 when Lineker proved his was self employed not an employee.

Really?

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2023-03-01/gary-linekers-lawyer-claims-taxman-made-up-mind-over-49m-claim

 

[portlock seagull]

Lineker’s key mistake was to throw Nazi Germany in there. However fine and nuanced his understanding of the semiotics of National Socialist messaging in the years 1930-1940, it would be good generally if people could stop using Nazi Germany as a kind of bad things emoji. Better to explain and use detail. Save Nazi Germany. Keep it in your back pocket for those occasions when only Nazi Germany will do.

 

[Jam The Man]

Steve Wilson (Twitter):

MOTD commentators now also stepping down from tomorrow’s show.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I don’t believe in likening us to a regime where the murders of opponents and Jews started almost on day one. Imho rhetoric or wild exaggeration should be the preserve of ill informed keyboard warriors.

I’m really not sure that this is at all right.

Look at this timeline.

Timeline of the Holocaust: 1933-1945

www.museumoftolerance.com

In fact, I’d go as far to say that statement is ill informed. There was a lot of propaganda using discriminatory language linked to vile anti immigrant policies before the violence started.

Dispicable violence like this:

Pogroms

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

All only made possible by years of cruel, aggressive and anti-semetic language. Turning the German nation against the Jewish immigrants.

More than happy for you to post evidence that the murders started at the same time as the Nazi’s language which to my mind; was born out of Mein Kampf published in 1925.