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[Other Sport] Fury Vs Wilder 3



Normal Rob

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Jul 8, 2003
5,797
Somerset
He would certainly get the lions share of support, he's much more popular than Fury amongst the British boxing public.

I remain unconvinced. Everyone I speak to wants Fury to win.

We need a poll!

I was Team AJ, but he's just devoid of the passion that is needed to keep me onside. He is just so bland. Fury, although clearly an extremely flawed character, has delivered a level of excitement and fighting heart that has won me around.
 




Vin

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Jun 12, 2021
633
If anyone can do it, AJ can, that's why he's former 3 belt and peoples champion. I still think if he fights his fight and uses his physical attributes in the rematch he wins, he's a quick learner. Then surely we would get the dream fight, hopefully in the UK, 90%+ of the audience cheering on AJ, would be a great spectacle.

Wilder would destroy AJ within 2/3 rounds. 90% of fans will be pro Fury.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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town full of eejits
Both fighters are a shadow of real fighters and look like buckets of flab. A disgrace to the past fighters and a disgrace to the
noble art.

Fury is a real fighter , i think he beats all heavyweight in recent times apart from Ali , Frazier , Tyson and possibly Lewis although i think he probably beats him ....6 ft 9 in 19 stone ....the guy is a beast and he has ticker....have you read back to the days of old when heavyweights were 14 stone...?
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Fury has never been "chiselled" in the classic sense in his entire career, but it never affects his performance. You look at the physique of Frank Bruno and you'd think he'd be indestructible, but Fury would absolutely dismantle him (as did a 'softer' looking Tim Witherspoon back in the day). And lets not even go into the AJ-Ruiz zone, where the bodybuilder got splattered by the Burger King.

I do agree, Fury looks far from a top athlete. But it takes more than having a six-pack to be heavyweight champion of the world. Ask George Foreman. So there's hope for us all :)

whilst wilder was getting a brain scan fury was bouncing around in a vegas nightclub ...he really is something else...:lolol::lolol::lolol:
 




Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,513
Worthing
Cyanide will Fury retire undefeated?

Can’t see anyone out there getting near him for at least 18 months, Usyk, Whyte, even Dubois or Joyce, it would be a short nights work given his power and size.

The only man out there who can beat Tyson Fury is Tyson Fury himself.
 


Half Time Pies

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Sep 7, 2003
1,575
Brighton
My experience too. I've always struggled to take to AJ. Not sure what it is that makes him the people's champ. The majority I speak to are pro Fury

I think with AJ you get the cross-over support, he was an Olympic champion, has more casual support and is well know by the general public not just boxing fans. He's been better promoted throughout his career and you see him on posters, advertising under armour etc. He's definitely a bigger draw overall in the UK.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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I think with AJ you get the cross-over support, he was an Olympic champion, has more casual support and is well know by the general public not just boxing fans. He's been better promoted throughout his career and you see him on posters, advertising under armour etc. He's definitely a bigger draw overall in the UK.

A month ago that was probably true.

Now tickets for Fury's next fight, if at Wembley or somewhere, will be the most sought after boxing tickets for a long time in this country

I'll be interested to see what advertisers now think of Fury. Advertisers and the establishment generally. Will he feature in the honours list? Will him and SPOTY embrace? Is he still viewed as too volatile?
 




Robinjakarta

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Jul 14, 2014
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Jakarta
I remember a time when Harry Carpenter uttered those immortal words “He’s won the title back at 32!” Zaire 1974, clearly heavyweights aged quicker back then 😂

Is this an urban myth? I distinctly remember someone listing a Colemanball (now that could be for another thread) as the announcement: 'and your carpenter will be Harry Commentator.'
 


papajaff

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Aug 7, 2005
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Brighton
Well, maybe boxing has become a sport for people who know fu***ng jack-shit about the sport.

Did you just have a really bad weekend SB? Chill mate, back to the footie this weekend.
 






StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
He would certainly get the lions share of support, he's much more popular than Fury amongst the British boxing public.

Not now, no chance.
A huge amount of boxing fans got massively tired of the rubbish from AJ vs Wilder, will they, won't they.
Then the loss to Ruiz didn't help.
And then Furys dominance over Wilder in the first 2 fights.

Then AJ's loss to Usyk, quickly followed by possibly the greatest heavyweight fight of the past 20 odd years in Wilder Fury 3.

I imagine AJ has a decent casual following, but Fury is by and clear the top dog in heavyweight boxing and has huge audiences in both the UK and North America.

Fight at wembley between the two and i think it'd be fair to say the support would be pretty evenly split.
 










Withdean11

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Feb 18, 2007
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Brighton/Hyde
Not now, no chance.
A huge amount of boxing fans got massively tired of the rubbish from AJ vs Wilder, will they, won't they.
Then the loss to Ruiz didn't help.
And then Furys dominance over Wilder in the first 2 fights.

Then AJ's loss to Usyk, quickly followed by possibly the greatest heavyweight fight of the past 20 odd years in Wilder Fury 3.

I imagine AJ has a decent casual following, but Fury is by and clear the top dog in heavyweight boxing and has huge audiences in both the UK and North America.

Fight at wembley between the two and i think it'd be fair to say the support would be pretty evenly split.

AJ's comments during the BLM riots turned a lot of fans away from him.
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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I just watched it. I hadn't spotted that Detonay wore a skirt. Cool.

Give it another couple of years and we wont be allowed to call it the "Mens heavyweight" championship of the world. Just in case you dont identify with those stereotypes!
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,281
AJ's comments during the BLM riots turned a lot of fans away from him.

I actually admired him and Lewis Hamilton taking such a high profile stance. Yeah BLM as a political organisation are a bit at the lunatic fringe, but taking the knee and high profile sports people speaking out has nothing to do with the questionable political oganisation imho.

Full kudos to AJ. Or are you talking about the doctored BS that was attributed to him?. Im sure we both agree that racism is outrageous in 2020/21.

And none would have felt its affects more than members of the black community so good on the high profile black sports people for taking up the fight against the scourge..

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-speech-black-lives-matter-blm-protest-racist-boycott-a9553701.html
 




Bob'n'weave

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Nov 18, 2016
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Nr Lewes
On that point (and admittedly, I know nothing about boxing) - but was Fury carrying a lot of surplus fat around his mid-rift? He's only 33 but he seemed to have acres of middle-aged spread for someone in elite fighting condition. Obviously it didn't hamper his stamina. as he went 11 brutal rounds and seemed to be getting stronger as the bout went on, but he appeared to be carrying a lot of additional weight in an area of no obvious benefit to a fighter.

Brilliant fight strategy from Fury. Every ounce of that extra weight was used to demoralise and weaken Wilder. By round six he was done and Fury slowly took him apart. I'm surprised the corner/ref didn't stop it sooner. Epic fight.
 


Half Time Pies

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Sep 7, 2003
1,575
Brighton
Id really like to see Wilder fight someone decent before working out how monumental an achievement for Fury these trilogy fights were, because apart from 2 fights against an aged Luiz Ortiz with high blood pressure (where he was pretty much outboxed for most of the fight) he's fought literally nobody!
 


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