[Other Sport] Fury Vs Wilder 3

[DJ NOBO]

Feel a bit sorry for Wilder, giving up a 40lbs advantage was never going to be easy. Yes I know size advantage hasn't always been decisive in some fighters, but in Fury's it was, with his constant leaning and mauling which wore out Wilder in the end.

There is much to like about Wilder.
He was physically disadvantaged and still gave gave everything he had.
He wouldn’t shake fury’s hand at the end but I like to think that was a heat of the moment thing.
It shouldn’t take away what he did in the ring.
Many fighters say they will go out on their shield, few actually do it.
Another thing - watching that fight made it seem all the more stupid for AJ not to lean on, and clinch, usyk

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Unpleasant sport full of unpleasant people.

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[big nuts]

Unpleasant sport full of unpleasant people.

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Some cracking insight there, please keep contributing.

 

[227 BHA]

Gutted I missed it now but really couldn’t deal with the 4.30 start at my age, I’d still be ruined for work today!
Anyone know when the full fight is going to be available for free?
I’ve got BT sport and I assume at some point they’re going to make it available.
I’d love to watch it but there’s no way I’m paying £25 to watch a fight I know the result of!

 

[Lenny Rider]

Unpleasant sport full of unpleasant people.

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Apart from the fact it’s changed thousands of young men’s lives for the better, both Frank Bruno and AJ have said without boxing they would have ended up in prison.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Gutted I missed it now but really couldn’t deal with the 4.30 start at my age, I’d still be ruined for work today!
Anyone know when the full fight is going to be available for free?
I’ve got BT sport and I assume at some point they’re going to make it available.
I’d love to watch it but there’s no way I’m paying £25 to watch a fight I know the result of!

It’s on You Tube old boy, currently residing at Casa Harty on the CDS, and that’s the route I took yesterday morning, breakfast on the veranda watching it on the iPad at sensible o clock.

 

[Questions]

On that point (and admittedly, I know nothing about boxing) - but was Fury carrying a lot of surplus fat around his mid-rift? He's only 33 but he seemed to have acres of middle-aged spread for someone in elite fighting condition. Obviously it didn't hamper his stamina. as he went 11 brutal rounds and seemed to be getting stronger as the bout went on, but he appeared to be carrying a lot of additional weight in an area of no obvious benefit to a fighter.

Fury used that weight to lean on Wilder and tire him out.

 

[amexer]

If they say heading a football gives dementia what does getting hit like that do

 

[Lenny Rider]

Fury used that weight to lean on Wilder and tire him out.

Cyanide will Fury retire undefeated?

Can’t see anyone out there getting near him for at least 18 months, Usyk, Whyte, even Dubois or Joyce, it would be a short nights work given his power and size.

 

[Bakero]

Fury used that weight to lean on Wilder and tire him out.

Would the extra fat on the belly enhance his ability to take body shots too? Obviously, below the blubber is a layer of toned muscle.

What's more, any extra weight a fighter carries, be it muscle or fat, could have a positive impact on punching power.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I reckon for AJ to recover his reputation as a top heavyweight he would have to beat Usyk, do what it took to get the fight with Fury, beat him, then beat him in the re-match.

Daunting, but I maintain that Tyson Fury can be beaten (but probably only by Tyson Fury).

 

[crodonilson]

I reckon for AJ to recover his reputation as a top heavyweight he would have to beat Usyk, do what it took to get the fight with Fury, beat him, then beat him in the re-match.

Daunting, but I maintain that Tyson Fury can be beaten (but probably only by Tyson Fury).

If anyone can do it, AJ can, that's why he's former 3 belt and peoples champion. I still think if he fights his fight and uses his physical attributes in the rematch he wins, he's a quick learner. Then surely we would get the dream fight, hopefully in the UK, 90%+ of the audience cheering on AJ, would be a great spectacle.

 

[Withdean11]

Would the extra fat on the belly enhance his ability to take body shots too? Obviously, below the blubber is a layer of toned muscle.

Yes.

What's more, any extra weight a fighter carries, be it muscle or fat, could have a positive impact on punching power.

No.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

If anyone can do it, AJ can, that's why he's former 3 belt and peoples champion. I still think if he fights his fight and uses his physical attributes in the rematch he wins, he's a quick learner. Then surely we would get the dream fight, hopefully in the UK, 90%+ of the audience cheering on AJ, would be a great spectacle.

Ha ha, yeh mate

 

[Bakero]

I reckon for AJ to recover his reputation as a top heavyweight he would have to beat Usyk, do what it took to get the fight with Fury, beat him, then beat him in the re-match.

Daunting, but I maintain that Tyson Fury can be beaten (but probably only by Tyson Fury).

That's asking quite a lot. If AJ were to beat Usyk in the rematch, he puts himself back amongst the top 3 in the world. He's not far off that now anyway.

Were he to go on and put on a good show against Fury, let alone beat him, it cements his reputation.

It remains to be seen whether any of this will happen, of course. I have an inkling that we'll see a very different AJ in the Usyk rematch but not sure if he's got it in him to win.

 

[227 BHA]

If anyone can do it, AJ can, that's why he's former 3 belt and peoples champion. I still think if he fights his fight and uses his physical attributes in the rematch he wins, he's a quick learner. Then surely we would get the dream fight, hopefully in the UK, 90%+ of the audience cheering on AJ, would be a great spectacle.

90% for AJ? Yeah, right!

 

[crodonilson]

90% for AJ? Yeah, right!

He would certainly get the lions share of support, he's much more popular than Fury amongst the British boxing public.

 

[big nuts]

He would certainly get the lions share of support, he's much more popular than Fury amongst the British boxing public.

I remain unconvinced. Everyone I speak to wants Fury to win.

We need a poll!

 

[Bakero]

No.

Why not? All things being equal (technique/speed etc), the heavier guy should hit harder. The amount of force generated is based on mass x acceleration.

Note I said "could have a positive impact".
Obviously, a fat bloke with little muscle isn't going to hit hard.

 

[Billy the Fish]

On that point (and admittedly, I know nothing about boxing) - but was Fury carrying a lot of surplus fat around his mid-rift? He's only 33 but he seemed to have acres of middle-aged spread for someone in elite fighting condition. Obviously it didn't hamper his stamina. as he went 11 brutal rounds and seemed to be getting stronger as the bout went on, but he appeared to be carrying a lot of additional weight in an area of no obvious benefit to a fighter.

Reply to [MENTION=29690]essbee1[/MENTION], I can't multi quote for some reason.

I believe it's the difference between size and strength training. If you watch any strongman competitions those guys are rarely chiselled but they are, as it says on the tin, the world's strongest men. (exception being Mariusz Pudzianowski who transitioned from bodybuilding)

Also see Olympic weightlifting, they train for explosive strength rather than size and rarely look like bodybuilders.

Fighters who are too musclebound always tire quicker, I'm sure there's an element of vanity to why they actually bother because it doesn't necessarily make a difference to your ability as a boxer, but takes an awful lot of effort!