Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
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Yes, that's pretty much what I have been thinking as I have been reading through this thread. Nicely put.
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Yes, that's pretty much what I have been thinking as I have been reading through this thread. Nicely put.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Being a bit of a leftie liberal hand-wringer I tend to think that as a very wealthy country we can afford to support those unable to work. As a pragmatist I recognise that some of those who claim to be unable to work are, in fact, unwilling to work.
This pair of herberts, though, seem to be proud to espouse their unwillingness and as such are fully deserving of all the scorn and ire that they are getting.
I would also say the same about Her Majesty if she were ever to appear on TV and say she was milking the gig.
This pair of herberts, though, seem to be proud to espouse their unwillingness and as such are fully deserving of all the scorn and ire that they are getting.
I would also say the same about Her Majesty if she were ever to appear on TV and say she was milking the gig.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Having watched the programme, they're clearly not stupid people. The guy in particular seemed pleasant enough, articulate and engaging, and they clearly adore their kids - as Stacey said, there's a lot of love in that house. But it doesn't take away from the fact that the chaotic, unstructured "we just do what they want" upbringing of those kids can only curtail and damage their life chances in the long term.
I cannot accept the illiteracy, or the lack of a proper diet, or the lack of vaccinations / medicine / dentistry, of not sitting down together for a meal, going to bed whenever they want, and the complete apathy towards actually parenting your kids. This vague notion of letting them "find their own way in their own time" is bobbins. Every child needs an element of that whilst growing up, but it cannot JUST be that alone. Thats bonkers. Kids aren't wise enough to make all the rules, or decide when they might start reading. They need help, structure and guidance, and from what I saw, they were getting precious little of that.
I would be deeply worried how that little lad is going to be coping with life in 5 years time, when he should be starting to gain some independence, but has been left so ill equipped to cope with life.
And whatever way you cut it, the parents are a couple of professional spongers.
I cannot accept the illiteracy, or the lack of a proper diet, or the lack of vaccinations / medicine / dentistry, of not sitting down together for a meal, going to bed whenever they want, and the complete apathy towards actually parenting your kids. This vague notion of letting them "find their own way in their own time" is bobbins. Every child needs an element of that whilst growing up, but it cannot JUST be that alone. Thats bonkers. Kids aren't wise enough to make all the rules, or decide when they might start reading. They need help, structure and guidance, and from what I saw, they were getting precious little of that.
I would be deeply worried how that little lad is going to be coping with life in 5 years time, when he should be starting to gain some independence, but has been left so ill equipped to cope with life.
And whatever way you cut it, the parents are a couple of professional spongers.
marcos3263
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They are front page of the argus today and its a sensitive write up and makes them look less hideous - It almost looks acceptable the way its been written. I could be converted........
Hastings gull
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- Nov 23, 2013
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A reasonable post but I would add that you might find that her Majesty is very willing to work.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
I have no doubts of that; she could have put her feet up 20 years ago and handed over to Charlie.
symyjym
Banned
I am guessing this is the same couple with the Argus story?
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17911746.39-39-re-no-burden-39-home-allen-family-brighton/
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17911746.39-39-re-no-burden-39-home-allen-family-brighton/
Mr Putdown
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This got me thinking and I’m not sure my schooling gave me any genuine life skills, all of those came from my parents and wider family.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
“It’s a cost-effective way to live. If people are really angry, they can employ us to teach them to live on a shoestring."
*shakes head*
*shakes head*
Corrected for them.
If you get a puppy and let it roam aimlessly over the house pissing and shitting, have ko structured bed time, don’t teach it door manors, perhaps never walk it but if you did no lead, don’t discipline it when it wants to jump up at strangers, run into the road and finally let it eat what it wants when it wants and refuse to give it worming and flea tabs...
What sort dog is that puppy going to turn into
Assuming the RSPCA haven’t stepped in!!
I’m going to assume they have run out of money and want some more free?
It is surely good for children to be regularly mixing and socialising with other children, and in the process, learning the life skill of being able to work, communicate and collaborate with others, some of whom you may get on with and others less so.
It can help when one reaches adulthood and have to do these things!
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
If you get a puppy and let it roam aimlessly over the house pissing and shitting, have ko structured bed time, don’t teach it door manors, perhaps never walk it but if you did no lead, don’t discipline it when it wants to jump up at strangers, run into the road and finally let it eat what it wants when it wants and refuse to give it worming and flea tabs...
What sort dog is that puppy going to turn into
I'm honestly at a loss as to how the social services haven't stepped in. While other kids are at school, these two are on a trampoline in the back garden, and going foraging in the woods. All very "New Age" I'm sure, but you'd think that when a child is home schooled, there are certain educational standards which that child still has to attain by key stages in their development ? The poor kid being completely illiterate at 8 years old is an absolute disgrace on their part.
Megazone
On his last warning
How will the parents teach him how to sign on?
If he can't even spell his own name, how's he going to remember his national insurance number?
Mr Putdown
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Socialising, yep I’ll give you that one.
Fair enough, but to judge from the coverage of this family, it is at least questionable whether what these particular “home educated” kids are getting from their parents, is likely to resemble what most of us would regard as “genuine life skills”. Foraging, trampolining and rolling in the dirt only gets you so far in today’s world...
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Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
Not if you're Bear Grylls.
I’d hazard a guess that Mr Grylls’ great success in life owes a lot not only to his well-honed survival skills, but also his education and contacts picked up during his time at Eton and two universities, not to mention his stint in the Services.
