Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

[Kinky Gerbil]

"I had to go to my second home in Cornwall for the weekend to get inspiration for a book I'm writing about a posh bloke with a house in Cornwall"



In the spring / summer a mate of mine in the same road, with a south facing front garden, stuck two chairs in the front garden two metres apart and away from the garden wall / pavement. It was well known he'd be out there on a Friday evening after work with a cold beer or two so friends popping by would take a seat in the spare chair or on the garden wall and have a beer and a chat. I suspect you could still do the wall thing now, though it would be cold, wet and dark so not quite the same

Why are you going to Barbados.

Business

Great, thanks - off you pop.

 

[atomised]

Gove confirming this morning that it could be extended

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Gove confirming this morning that it could be extended

That took long

 

[Perfidious Albion]

People have brought it on themselves by not obeying the rules and seeking to find loopholes to suit themselves. Look at those up North partying in the street after the pubs closed.
The media haven't helped by featuring those whinging about losses. What about those thousands catching it and in hospital and those dying.
The Government tries to walk a tightrope between the economy and health . It was inevitable.

 

[The Clamp]

Whatever political angle you’re coming from, whatever views you have on the actual lockdown and it’s effectiveness etc. It’s happening and however long this one lasts I wish everybody the best with it. Whatever your circumstances, I hope you stay sane and healthy and get to be around loved ones if safe to do so.
All the best.
TTFN TC

 

[atomised]

That took long

It's like they can't help themselves time will tell I guess

 

[Murray 17]

People have brought it on themselves by not obeying the rules and seeking to find loopholes to suit themselves.

Quite.

I hadn't realised that the dozens of teenagers, in big groups, in shops, all had asthma.



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[dwayne]

Why are you going to Barbados.

Business

Great, thanks - off you pop.

Lots of flights will be cancelled aparantly.

On a side note barbs is a nightmare to get into at the moment and you need to test again once you are there.

Mexico on the other hand looking good....again, sadly no direct flights to Cancun just Mexico city.

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[vegster]

Sunak tweeted his support for Cummings' rule breaking as well, so he is as complicit in that sorry episode as the others.

Speaking of which, does this lockdown apply to Cummings this time ?

I think he has managed to distance himself from a lot of the disasters, U turns and broken promises though, he's managed to give plenty of money away without revealing how he is going to get it back, that's when he will lose some " lustre " !

 

[The Spanish]

Why are you going to Barbados.

Business

Great, thanks - off you pop.

Barbados is offering 12 month “Welcome Stamp” visas for people who wish temporarily relocate and work from there remotely since Covid

So quite likely

 

[Napper]

reckon the cases could be brought down by stopping schools and Unis. Thats where the biggest spread starts.

The way they've done this , I cant see the numbers coming down enough for 4 weeks to be enough,

Also interesting from speaking to friends and family today , how many have plotted what rules they can bend themselves. ( Visiting parents seems to be the main one )

Will be different from the first this one.

 

[beorhthelm]

its daft having universities open, when they are known large contributor to cases and courses are mostly online anyway. yet pubs and restaurants with very few cases, are shut. im pretty sure the economics dont support this either.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Also interesting from speaking to friends and family today , how many have plotted what rules they can bend themselves. ( Visiting parents seems to be the main one )

Will be different from the first this one.

Good, that will help.

 

[cuthbert]

Government advisors, and indeed ministers like Jenrick, have a special exemption from all the rules....

Bobby Jenrick did not go to his second home last lockdown he went to his third.

 

[darkwolf666]

its daft having universities open, when they are known large contributor to cases and courses are mostly online anyway. yet pubs and restaurants with very few cases, are shut. im pretty sure the economics dont support this either.

You say pubs and restaurants have few cases, but that's not entirely true, studies have up to 18% of new clusters attributed to hospitality - that's cluster, so multiple cases.

Clearly work and education are the biggest drivers, but it appears nobody wants to shut education down, so hospitality cops it...

 

[Weststander]

You say pubs and restaurants have few cases, but that's not entirely true, studies have up to 18% of new clusters attributed to hospitality - that's cluster, so multiple cases.

Clearly work and education are the biggest drivers, but it appears nobody wants to shut education down, so hospitality cops it...

Education was covered on LBC this afternoon. A report in the NY Times based on a scientific study of 50,000 kids showed that they are not super spreaders, under 10’s don’t appear to spread the virus at all. Full credit to Starmer for not party politicising this particular point.

In so many ways kids need school. Already schools have reported that significant numbers have simply never returned since March, not 16 year olds, disappeared off the radar. Mental health, friendships, education (the poor don’t all have laptops for every kid), structure to their day and week.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Education was covered on LBC this afternoon. A report in the NY Times based on a scientific study of 50,000 kids showed that they are not super spreaders, under 10’s don’t appear to spread the virus at all. Full credit to Starmer for not party politicising this particular point.

In so many ways kids need school. Already schools have reported that significant numbers have simply never returned since March, not 16 year olds, disappeared off the radar. Mental health, friendships, education (the poor don’t all have laptops for every kid), structure to their day and week.

Schools will be shut inside a month.

The campaigning has already started

 

[Weststander]

Schools will be shut inside a month.

The campaigning has already started

Some teaching unions have been in weeks in readiness, this is just a continuum.

So angry with these lockdowns and restrictions on civil liberties, is this one of your “Right then, everything can bloody close down then”?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Some teaching unions have been in weeks in readiness, this is just a continuum.

So angry with these lockdowns and restrictions on civil liberties, is this one of your “Right then, everything can bloody close down then”?

I’m not angry in the slightest, I’m depressed about the state of the country and what will be left after another 2/3 month lockdown

Sage advisors have done the normal trick of going to the press today to crank up the pressure, so it’s only a matter of time before they shut.

 

[Weststander]

I’m not angry in the slightest, I’m depressed about the state of the country and what will be left after another 2/3 month lockdown

Sage advisors have done the normal trick of going to the press today to crank up the pressure, so it’s only a matter of time before they shut.

No one, unless they’re a spiteful sole who’s sitting on secure income and wishes ill on others, is happy about the events of this year. The UK and virtually everywhere else will be paying off debt for decades.