Fox hunting

[BadFish]

Thats clearly is not what I said, it was in the context of fox hunting.

It might help if you could let everyone know what else you would wish to ban, or is it just the pursuits of those toff's that you wish to impose your view on ?

Ugly trait.

I wish to ban any sports that involve animals being slowly put to death for the please of those that partake.

Fox Hunting
Bear Baiting
Cock Fighting
Dog Fights
Probably some others thank i can't think of off the top of my head.

I don't really give a shit about who does it. Rich or poor you must be some ****ed up individual to get pleasure out of watching animals suffer.

What is the point you are trying to make?

 

[lawros left foot]

It simply isn't a fact!

Are those who look after the hounds on a minimum wage toffs? What of the farm workers that do much of the preparation for the hunt? The followers on bicycles or foot can hardly be described as toffs nor those providing refreshments yet they are all equally part of the hunt which couldn't take place without them and are ultimately just as responsible for any cruelty that is carried out.

I actually mean riding to hounds, and i think you know this. Without the riders, hunting as a so called sport would not exist. As stated previously , I have absolutely no problem with drag hunting,and I don't understand why some in the hunting fraternity are so against it. I also know a huge amount of people are involved in hunting across all social classes, but, it doesn't make it right, as much as dog fighting isnt right

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Eh?

You were going to jump from the Amex roof (without safety harness -hopefully!).

I'm not anti toff - I just don't like cvnts! And you are a complete cvnt! Got it now?

 

[junior]

It simply isn't a fact!

Are those who look after the hounds on a minimum wage toffs? What of the farm workers that do much of the preparation for the hunt? The followers on bicycles or foot can hardly be described as toffs nor those providing refreshments yet they are all equally part of the hunt which couldn't take place without them and are ultimately just as responsible for any cruelty that is carried out.

Please don't let facts get in the way of this argument.

 

[lawros left foot]

Please don't let facts get in the way of this argument.

Theres also a lot in the countryside who want nothing to do with your barbaric behaviour

 

[junior]

On 26k? Are you sure? And you hunt with the quorn hunt in winter, as another poster said bare minimum to keep a horse is 4.24k per annum, that was without transport. How much are your hunt fees?just out of interest

Yes, sure. I'm a Lance Corporal in the Armed Forces, check the publicly available pay scales. And i reckon i spend more than £4.2k per year

 

[Creaky]

I actually mean riding to hounds, and i think you know this. Without the riders, hunting as a so called sport would not exist. As stated previously , I have absolutely no problem with drag hunting,and I don't understand why some in the hunting fraternity are so against it. I also know a huge amount of people are involved in hunting across all social classes, but, it doesn't make it right, as much as dog fighting isnt right

Of course it doesn't make it right! I am 100% against any form of cruelty to animals for the pleasure of individuals - it is however hypocritical in my opinion to claim that it is only the upper class who are responsible for fox hunting - without the complicity of many working class individuals it would never have existed as a 'sport'.

 

[junior]

Theres also a lot in the countryside who want nothing to do with your barbaric behaviour

I'm sure you are correct. There are also a lot of town folk (of which I am one) who support what is in your opinion 'barbaric behaviour'.

 

[junior]

You were going to jump from the Amex roof

Erm, no I didn't.

 

[BadFish]

July

I've just read some of the other thread that you highlight, it's just you repeating over and over ad nauseum, that fox hunting is more humane than other forms of killing, this isn't proof, this is just your opinion

......and ignoring any questions about the efficiency of this method of culling (assuming that we believe people do it in order to cull foxes rather that to satisfy some blood lust borne out of a personality defect). One fox every hunt is hardly going to keep the numbers down is it?

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Erm, no I didn't.

Wishful thinking then on my part (and a fair few others).

 

[lawros left foot]

Of course it doesn't make it right! I am 100% against any form of cruelty to animals for the pleasure of individuals - it is however hypocritical in my opinion to claim that it is only the upper class who are responsible for fox hunting - without the complicity of many working class individuals it would never have existed as a 'sport'.

Oh really, my father was often told during his farm hand days, to prepare for the local hunt, of which his boss was a member. He did it , under sufferance, because keeping his job was more important to him than making a stand against hunting. He wouldn't however, have anything to do with hunting, voluntarily. So don't tell me it's the fault of the working class

 

[lawros left foot]

I'm sure you are correct. There are also a lot of town folk (of which I am one) who support what is in your opinion 'barbaric behaviour'.

But, across the country as a whole, over 75% support a total ban

 

[BadFish]

I'm pretty sure that is the thread that contains my posting of a link to an independent study by RCVS Veterinary Surgeons who concluded that the fox is killed 'almost instantly' when killed by hounds and does not suffer. I don't have the time or inclination to pick through the thread, but you are welcome to and I'm sure it is that thread.

....... and the being chased about all day?

oh yes, i seem to remember "they enjoy it" or some such nonsense

 

[brakespear]

Cruel and barbaric. Completely understand why toffs enjoy it.

ftfy

 

[Camicus]

I cant belive this is still an issue. Its not about the town V country as they would have you belive its about causing suffering for no valid reason other than giggles. Theres a word for that and its pshycopathic. There are far better ways of controlling vermin. But hey that dosnt involve meeting up with the toffs for a bloody good horay

 

[lawros left foot]

Yes, sure. I'm a Lance Corporal in the Armed Forces, check the publicly available pay scales. And i reckon i spend more than £4.2k per year

Who looks after your horse when you are on deployment?

 

[Creaky]

Oh really, my father was often told during his farm hand days, to prepare for the local hunt, of which his boss was a member. He did it , under sufferance, because keeping his job was more important to him than making a stand against hunting. He wouldn't however, have anything to do with hunting, voluntarily. So don't tell me it's the fault of the working class

Are those that care for the horses, the hounds,follow the hunt on foot or bicycle and those providing refreshments doing it under sufferance - of course they aren't! Hunting as a 'sport' is equally the fault of all the classes, or put another way class has no bearing on the mentality of those who derive pleasure from what can only be described as cruelty.

 

[junior]

Who looks after your horse when you are on deployment?

Friends usually.

 

[junior]

http://www.vet-wildlifemanagement.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=32

This should quieten all those who believe hunting foxes with hounds is inhumane.