Four Month Shadow Cabinet Reshuffle

[essbee]

Kevan Jones resignation letter...

Couldn't he or his PA at least have aligned the text right. It just looks bl**dy scruffy.

 

[Titanic]

Couldn't he or his PA at least have aligned the text right. It just looks bl**dy scruffy.

I think that 'ragged right' is pretty much standard in letter writing.

 

[glasfryn]

So let's see then, on the one hand there's:

a) the rather scruffy bearded man who leads the opposition by a record mandate is reshuffling his shadow cabinet after 4 months as they are providing too much resistance to his attempts to implement a new approach to the game called politics

and on the other:-

b) the pig's head f*cking toff who is our prime minister and, in spite of his unequivocal assurances to the contrary last year, has now announced that, running scared of cabinet resignations and revolt, there will be a free EU referendum vote for all MPs.

Hmm, which is by far and away the most significant political event and therefore clearly more important to start a thread about?

Well, we know what you've chosen; I suppose it must have been exciting to hear the occasional, misfiring cerebral synapse echoing around your cranial cavern as you arrived at your decision, even though it was always obviously, in your case, a no-brainer.

and the most annoying thing is those that are resisting JC cannot see further than their own noses, its a little like the "they are behind you" senario one one hand its nice to have a go at JC because he is soft and cuddly (for now) and on the other there is a rush from those behind (the electorate) who want their MP's to fight the tories tooth and nail on every little battlefield, which lets face it is what they are there for.
to put it simply the grass roots who have put JC where he is want him to do one thing and the Labour MP's want to do another and still keep their snouts in the trough,its a squeeze betwwen the grass roots and JC and the MP's or at least some of them and I am pretty sure I know who is going to win.
between now and the next election there will lots of culling done by the party members of both colours over Europe,Syria, and welfare and there will be an even bigger gulf.
the right will move even further that way (if thats even possible) and the left will harden, and those dithering MP's will have to make their minds up as to which way they want to swing or end up being de-selected or just losing their seats.

 

[ROSM]

The briefings being provided by Corbyn aides, insiders etc haven't helped here one iota

Neither side of the party come out of this well
Anybody makes any comment about him perceived as negative are told to 'fyck off out of the party you redtory' whereas the right of the party need to understand that their candidates got beaten convincingly by a group of members and affiliates

Whether he will ever be prime minister remains to be seen. Whether the party will change for the better also. But it is changing and there does seem to be more alignment between the plp and wider voter feeling than between the party membership and either voters or the plp at the moment

 

[pastafarian]

there is a rush from those behind (the electorate) who want their MP's to fight the tories tooth and nail on every little battlefield, which lets face it is what they are there for

I always believed the primary reason for an MP "being there" was to represent their constituents whether it be working in Parliament,working in their constituency or working for their political party.

The published code of conduct for ministers states that

"Members have a general duty to act in the interests of the nation as a whole; and a special duty to their constituents."

Labour MP`s are not there simply to be a party of protest and have a bash at the Tories,although I understand this militant sentiment has been brainwashed into a few recently.
Perhaps that is why they are struggling and divided ideologically at the moment,they simply dont know why they are even there.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Unless posted earlier (?) surely only a question of time before someone comes up with a Hitler rant from Downfall ?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

The briefings being provided by Corbyn aides, insiders etc haven't helped here one iota

Neither side of the party come out of this well
Anybody makes any comment about him perceived as negative are told to 'fyck off out of the party you redtory' whereas the right of the party need to understand that their candidates got beaten convincingly by a group of members and affiliates

Whether he will ever be prime minister remains to be seen. Whether the party will change for the better also. But it is changing and there does seem to be more alignment between the plp and wider voter feeling than between the party membership and either voters or the plp at the moment

Let's face it, it's a shambles, he never wanted or expected to be leader. Good MP but crap leader, he couldn't run a bath.

For years Corbyn rebels against his Party Leader, and now wants loyalty from all those on the right of the party, it's just not going to happen.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Corbyn turning the screws, no longer new politics now. Same old same old. Shame

 

[London Irish]

Delighted to say it looks like Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder on the Labour front bench reshuffle.

I had thought a shake-up after just 4 months was premature --- but of course I made the classic rookie mistake of believing the unnamed sourcing briefings of the perennially incompetent UK political journalist fraternity, who all swore blind that Hilary Benn was for the chop. In fact, this was barely a reshuffle at all....only one full Shadow Cabinet member moved on (and Michael Dugher was only in there in the first place as a bit of backscratching for his mate Andy Burnham after running his disastrous leadership bid).

There will be a real reshuffle at some point - either in the summer or early 2017 - but learn to rely on better news sources if you care about when (and I'm sure only Labour Party members do).

For now, Jeremy has promoted the talented Emily Thornberry and strengthened his strategy of building a broad leadership team led by his clear 60% election mandate (oh and below, even the constant anti-Corbyn critic John Mann MP admitting that nobody outside the usual Westminster bubble gives a stuff about Dugher's career). JC struck the perfect balance between trying to cajole his frontbench colleagues into behaving with some more common endeavour while not going overboard and compromising the broad church strategy he has pioneered as leader - let's recall Blair and Brown (or even Miliband) never had a frontbench team that utilised the talent of all wings of the party like now.

https://twitter.com/JohnMannMP/status/684333009206657024

 

[London Irish]

The briefings being provided by Corbyn aides, insiders etc haven't helped here one iota

You have no idea who political journalists were speaking to. What is genuinely corrupting is journalists pretending they are doing their job by reporting unsourced gossip as fact. These hacks been left with hug egg on their faces after basically reporting utter shite over the past few days.

 

[cunning fergus]

Delighted to say it looks like Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder on the Labour front bench reshuffle.

I had thought a shake-up after just 4 months was premature --- but of course I made the classic rookie mistake of believing the unnamed sourcing briefings of the perennially incompetent UK political journalist fraternity, who all swore blind that Hilary Benn was for the chop. In fact, this was barely a reshuffle at all....only one full Shadow Cabinet member moved on (and Michael Dugher was only in there in the first place as a bit of backscratching for his mate Andy Burnham after running his disastrous leadership bid).

There will be a real reshuffle at some point - either in the summer or early 2017 - but learn to rely on better news sources if you care about when (and I'm sure only Labour Party members do).

For now, Jeremy has promoted the talented Emily Thornberry and strengthened his strategy of building a broad leadership team led by his clear 60% election mandate (oh and below, even the constant anti-Corbyn critic John Mann MP admitting that nobody outside the usual Westminster bubble gives a stuff about Dugher's career). JC struck the perfect balance between trying to cajole his frontbench colleagues into behaving with some more common endeavour while not going overboard and compromising the broad church strategy he has pioneered as leader - let's recall Blair and Brown (or even Miliband) never had a frontbench team that utilised the talent of all wings of the party like now.

https://twitter.com/JohnMannMP/status/684333009206657024

Leaving aside the disastrous political decision by Corbyn to (again) connect the Labour Party with unilateralism, I have to take issue with your sentiment about Thornberry.

No doubt she is talented in some way, yet she is actually just another typical middle class Labour Party MP who has a deep establishment connections and is a millionaire in her own right.

Notwithstanding her suicidal contemptuous tweet about a working class household which had the affront to have a St Georges Cross outside she and her High Court Judge husband have been involved in a scandalous arrangement to buy up social housing for rent.

http://www.thecnj.com/islington/2007/083107/news083107_02.html

As a bona fide socialist Corbyn should despise Labour MPs like Thornberry, she is the epitome of the contemporary establishment multi millionaire social democrat MP, making bundles as a Landlord.

Her appointment indicates he will forgo his natural prejudice to advance unilateralism, which by all polling measures is suicidal.

Very disappointing.

 

[beorhthelm]

Delighted to say it looks like Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder on the Labour front bench reshuffle.

I had thought a shake-up after just 4 months was premature --- but of course I made the classic rookie mistake of believing the unnamed sourcing briefings of the perennially incompetent UK political journalist fraternity, who all swore blind that Hilary Benn was for the chop. In fact, this was barely a reshuffle at all....only one full Shadow Cabinet member moved on (and Michael Dugher was only in there in the first place as a bit of backscratching for his mate Andy Burnham after running his disastrous leadership bid).

the briefings are/were coming from Labour and Corbyn's own team. for a reshuffle-lite, which i agree it was, he didn't half fanny around over it. bearing in mind the number of Corbyn supporters in parliament, he doesn't have a large pool to draw on, so i doubt he has much scope for a comprehensive reshuffle. the supposed new politics hasn't lasted to the end of the year, Corbyn's people are spinning against opponents as was ever done, and the big tent of the end of summer has been made smaller.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Delighted to say it looks like Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder on the Labour front bench reshuffle.

I had thought a shake-up after just 4 months was premature --- but of course I made the classic rookie mistake of believing the unnamed sourcing briefings of the perennially incompetent UK political journalist fraternity, who all swore blind that Hilary Benn was for the chop. In fact, this was barely a reshuffle at all....only one full Shadow Cabinet member moved on (and Michael Dugher was only in there in the first place as a bit of backscratching for his mate Andy Burnham after running his disastrous leadership bid).

There will be a real reshuffle at some point - either in the summer or early 2017 - but learn to rely on better news sources if you care about when (and I'm sure only Labour Party members do).

For now, Jeremy has promoted the talented Emily Thornberry and strengthened his strategy of building a broad leadership team led by his clear 60% election mandate (oh and below, even the constant anti-Corbyn critic John Mann MP admitting that nobody outside the usual Westminster bubble gives a stuff about Dugher's career). JC struck the perfect balance between trying to cajole his frontbench colleagues into behaving with some more common endeavour while not going overboard and compromising the broad church strategy he has pioneered as leader - let's recall Blair and Brown (or even Miliband) never had a frontbench team that utilised the talent of all wings of the party like now.

https://twitter.com/JohnMannMP/status/684333009206657024

Is this a joke?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Delighted to say it looks like Jeremy Corbyn has played a blinder on the Labour front bench reshuffle.

Genuinely hilarious comment ... spintastic!

 

[ROSM]

You have no idea who political journalists were speaking to. What is genuinely corrupting is journalists pretending they are doing their job by reporting unsourced gossip as fact. These hacks been left with hug egg on their faces after basically reporting utter shite over the past few days.

Actually I do have an idea who they were speaking to. Happy to PM you the names if you want to use your own sources to validate and confirm

 

[London Irish]

Leaving aside the disastrous political decision by Corbyn to (again) connect the Labour Party with unilateralism, I have to take issue with your sentiment about Thornberry.

No doubt she is talented in some way, yet she is actually just another typical middle class Labour Party MP who has a deep establishment connections and is a millionaire in her own right.

Notwithstanding her suicidal contemptuous tweet about a working class household which had the affront to have a St Georges Cross outside she and her High Court Judge husband have been involved in a scandalous arrangement to buy up social housing for rent.

http://www.thecnj.com/islington/2007/083107/news083107_02.html

As a bona fide socialist Corbyn should despise Labour MPs like Thornberry, she is the epitome of the contemporary establishment multi millionaire social democrat MP, making bundles as a Landlord.

Her appointment indicates he will forgo his natural prejudice to advance unilateralism, which by all polling measures is suicidal.

Very disappointing.

Are you kidding? Dredging up an article from 9 years about a property her husband bought perfectly legally? WTF is scandalous about it? Do you even know what that word means?

If this is the best smear job you can do on her, I reckon Emily will be just fine

 

[London Irish]

Genuinely hilarious comment ... spintastic!

Yeh right - and all the lobby hacks haven't been spinning at all

 

[London Irish]

Is this a joke?

Is this your level of competence in argument and debate? I guess so

 

[London Irish]

The stupidist criticism of the reshuffle was that it took 2 or 3 days to sort out. Look, if you have a dictator at the top of a party, like a Cameron and a Blair, for sure it can be done in 5 minutes flat - top down leaderships can work in that way like the petty dictators that they are.

Jeremy Corbyn's leadership style is completely different to that - it's collective, it's consensual and it generally brings in all wings of the party who want to work for victory in 2020. Corbynites remain a minority in Jeremy's own shadow cabinet, there's a Blairite, there are plenty of Brown era guys and there a few associated with Burnham's critique of New Labour. The time was spent in long discussions with all these colleagues about how all these different strands and opinions are going to work together going forward. That takes time when you aren't issuing top down orders.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Corbyn is a disaster, not for his politics but because he is incapable of leadership.The leaks prior to the reshuffle show he's unable to control his own faction of the party, so has no chance uniting everyone in the party to his right.