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[Football] For what duration of a match could an elite side hide a pub player?



GT49er

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Ah, but they might believe they can. Lest we forget 1 in 8 British men think they could take a point off Serena Williams, when in reality almost nobody who is not an elite level tennis player could do so.

1 in 8? Really?

I can maybe believe 1 in 8 men in their 20s and 30s who regularly play tennis believing it, but 1 in 8 of all of us?
 




zefarelly

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I think I've said before, at severl points in the 90's, we in our 20's were commenting how bad some of our players were and the team weas utter gash, that we still played a bit and in some instances wouldn't be much worse.

None of us would have got away with it @ PL standard but Div 4? probably for half an hour at least!
 






Jeremiah

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Stoke played a vastly overweight left winger against us once at the Goldstone. Can't remember his name , he looked like a pub player but was rather good.
 




ATFC Seagull

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Related story:

In our 9 a side Aussie Rules league, we once travelled to a game with 8 fit players and a bloke (not the best player when fit) with a broken collarbone. After much discussion, it was decided that he'd squeeze a guernsey on and take off his sling, and then just jog up and down on the sideline, run away from the ball if it came anywhere near him, and that none of us would kick his way. One of their players marked him for the entire 80 mins.
 








KeegansHairPiece

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Yeh agree, someone in great shape could away with it for a while. As long as they can play a 5 yard pass and didn't try anything fancy

Probably loads would just be saying, he needs time to adapt etc

Exactly if they were fit enough to run up and down they'd get away with it (it's worked for Jahanbaksh anyway).

Not a chance. Usain Bolt fastest man in the planet and no doubt pretty fit wasn’t even given a moment to answer the question of playing at an elite level.
 


Invicta

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Crawley signed that guy off the telly Mark Wright who is basically a pub player
 


One Teddy Maybank

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I fancy, up until about 10 years ago, I could have played in goal for the current Man City against a bottom three side, without getting found out.

Outfield, no chance.

Depends what level you played at initially IMO, even switching between County League and National League there is a significant step up in pace both physically and mentally. Even playing in goal the mental element can’t be underestimated, which makes it so specialised (as you probably know having played).

Park football, no chance.
 




Swansman

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I few years ago there was a top player who insisted his best friend was also signed as part of the deal .I think they moved to several clubs with the latter not actually playing at all. Someone on NSC will know.

Definitely happened a few times over the years though cant give any examples of exactly that scenario.

I know Kaka brought his brother Digao to Milan and he spent six years there despite not being anywhere near Serie A level.

Also in Milan we have the case of Harvey Esajas. He is Clarence Seedorfs childhood mate and played a couple of games in the Dutch top league in the 1990s, before retiring. In 2004, having not played any football for about three years, he visited Seedorf in Milan and talked about how fun it would be to play professional football again. Seedorf told Ancelotti, as a joke, to sign the defender.

Surprisingly, Ancelotti thought it would be a fun challenge to see what he could make of Seedorfs fat buddy and he was allowed to train with the team. After dropping about 15-20 kg Ancelotti gave him a one year contract, obviously with no intentions to play him but to keep him around as he was a nice bloke. Later on in that 04-05 season, Ancelotti decided to reward Esajas for his hard work by allowing him to play a few minutes in the Italian cup, making his comeback at age 31 after not having played professionally for about five years.
 


dazzer6666

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For those of you old enough, this was kind of done for a TV programme - must have been in the 70s. Memory a bit sketchy but it was a club player who thought he was decent and the programme was ‘The Big Time’ presented by Esther Rantzen I think (it spawned Sheena Easton). The guy was called Lol Cotterill, a scouser and spent a week training with Liverpool before playing in a Testimonial. Can’t remember if he was any good or not, but I do remember the team had a penalty and he took it. It was saved, so the ref made up a spurious reason to have it retaken, then it was saved again.

Edit....there is a bit on Wiki referring to it and a decent article on Reddit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Time_(TV_series)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/epb6l3/the_iron_man_and_the_pie_man_or_why_i_feel_the/
 
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albionalbino

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Also in Milan we have the case of Harvey Esajas. He is Clarence Seedorfs childhood mate and played a couple of games in the Dutch top league in the 1990s, before retiring. In 2004, having not played any football for about three years, he visited Seedorf in Milan and talked about how fun it would be to play professional football again. Seedorf told Ancelotti, as a joke, to sign the defender.


Surprisingly, Ancelotti thought it would be a fun challenge to see what he could make of Seedorfs fat buddy and he was allowed to train with the team. After dropping about 15-20 kg Ancelotti gave him a one year contract, obviously with no intentions to play him but to keep him around as he was a nice bloke. Later on in that 04-05 season, Ancelotti decided to reward Esajas for his hard work by allowing him to play a few minutes in the Italian cup, making his comeback at age 31 after not having played professionally for about five years.

Nice story
 






sydney

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For those of you old enough, this was kind of done for a TV programme - must have been in the 70s. Memory a bit sketchy but it was a club player who thought he was decent and the programme was ‘The Big Time’ presented by Esther Rantzen I think (it spawned Sheena Easton). The guy was called Lol Cotterill, a scouser and spent a week training with Liverpool before playing in a Testimonial. Can’t remember if he was any good or not, but I do remember the team had a penalty and he took it. It was saved, so the ref made up a spurious reason to have it retaken, then it was saved again.

Edit....there is a bit on Wiki referring to it and a decent article on Reddit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Time_(TV_series)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/epb6l3/the_iron_man_and_the_pie_man_or_why_i_feel_the/
Tommy Smiths testemonial ....i remember watching it , he wasn't that bad as i remember.
 




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Depends what level you played at initially IMO, even switching between County League and National League there is a significant step up in pace both physically and mentally. Even playing in goal the mental element can’t be underestimated, which makes it so specialised (as you probably know having played).

Park football, no chance.

Higher than park football, yes, but nothing amazing. I specifically said in a game for Man City against somebody shit -ie you'd not actually have to do anything, bar be okay with your feet and spray a few passes about. That would have been no problem.

Sadly, I'd have to let Pep down if he calls this week though, as I'm sidelined, due to taking a knee to the FACE on Monday night, saving a one-on-one. :eek:
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Higher than park football, yes, but nothing amazing. I specifically said in a game for Man City against somebody shit -ie you'd not actually have to do anything, bar be okay with your feet and spray a few passes about. That would have been no problem.

Sadly, I'd have to let Pep down if he calls this week though, as I'm sidelined, due to taking a knee to the FACE on Monday night, saving a one-on-one. :eek:

You’re quite young still then [emoji6][emoji2], to be able to get down [emoji23]


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