[Football] Football commentators must address racial “bias” article taken from the BBC Sport site

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Vancouver has an enormous (and still growing) Asian population anyway - our team there is 90% Asian origin (first generation). I can't get any of the above, you've got the number of xxs wrong (relatives, neighbours and financial crime compliance team would have been my guesses)

and [MENTION=13265]Super Steve Earle[/MENTION]

The number of xs does not correlate with the number of letters <sigh>

 

[dazzer6666]

and [MENTION=13265]Super Steve Earle[/MENTION]

The number of xs does not correlate with the number of letters <sigh>

I know

 

[keaton]

I was just in the BP, so it's difficult to realise a bit of satire from what is just typical posting for others.

Apologies,I thought it was obvious but I take the point. I don't do emojis and they might have helped

 

[Billy the Fish]

There is a visible racial difference. Are we supported to pretend it isn't there?

Look at Traore and Antonio. They're built like middleweight boxers, skillful and quick. Find me one white player who has anything like those attributes.

If there's bias to say those players are less intelligent then it needs to be stopped, but if black players are more often described as strong and quick it's because they are.

 

[Swansman]

Apologies,I thought it was obvious but I take the point. I don't do emojis and they might have helped

Nice. Fight the emojis. End decadence.

 

[darkwolf666]

The default position appears to be all white people are racist, especially those that say they’re not. In fact if you say that, you make things worse. The inferred tone at times has parallels with witch-hunting - if you drown you’re innocent, if you flout you get fished out, to dry out and burnt. A proper lose lose. We must continually apologise unreservedly for everything our ancestors did or didn’t, I can hardly keep up. fortunately certain quarters of the media are doing a cracking daily job of finding new things to apologise for such as the countryside being too white, commentator bias...haven’t checked today’s. Is it Dover cliffs again?

No you're ok there, they're a bit green at the moment...

 

[hart's shirt]

Spike Lee's take on racial stereotyping from 1989.

 

[Is it PotG?]

......if you don't mind my saying so

Not at all, fill yer boots.

 

[Bold Seagull]

There is a visible racial difference. Are we supported to pretend it isn't there?

Look at Traore and Antonio. They're built like middleweight boxers, skillful and quick. Find me one white player who has anything like those attributes.

If there's bias to say those players are less intelligent then it needs to be stopped, but if black players are more often described as strong and quick it's because they are.

Wayne Rooney: 1.76m tall, 83 kg.

Antonio: 1.8m tall, 82 kg.

Traore: 1.78m tall, 72 kg.

Aaron Mooy: 1.74m tall, 75 kg.

Solly March: 1.85m tall, 88 kg.

Eden Hazard: 1.75m tall, 74 kg.

Gareth Bale: 1.85m tall, 82 kg.

James Maddison: 1.75m tall, 73 kg.

Caglar Soyuncu: 1.86m tall, 82 kg. (fastest recorded sprint of this season at 23.3mph)

Phil Foden: 1.7m tall, 70 kg. (2nd fastest recorded sprint this season)

 

[Billy the Fish]

Wayne Rooney: 1.76m tall, 83 kg.

Antonio: 1.8m tall, 82 kg.

Traore: 1.78m tall, 72 kg.

Aaron Mooy: 1.74m tall, 75 kg.

Solly March: 1.85m tall, 88 kg.

Eden Hazard: 1.75m tall, 74 kg.

Gareth Bale: 1.85m tall, 82 kg.

James Maddison: 1.75m tall, 73 kg.

Height and weight doesn't equate to physique.

 

[Machiavelli]

Wayne Rooney: 1.76m tall, 83 kg.

Antonio: 1.8m tall, 82 kg.

Traore: 1.78m tall, 72 kg.

Aaron Mooy: 1.74m tall, 75 kg.

Solly March: 1.85m tall, 88 kg.

Eden Hazard: 1.75m tall, 74 kg.

Gareth Bale: 1.85m tall, 82 kg.

James Maddison: 1.75m tall, 73 kg.

Caglar Soyuncu: 1.86m tall, 82 kg. (fastest recorded sprint of this season at 23.3mph)

Phil Foden: 1.7m tall, 70 kg. (2nd fastest recorded sprint this season)

Are you sure about those Solly figures? Seems wrong on both measures.

 

[Acker79]

I don't think this is a new complaint. I remember mentioning it on here before in context of something, based on observations by people more intelligent and interested in such things than me. But it is interesting to now see someone has taken the time to actually study it properly to provide some sort of evidence in support of it.

 

[Bakero]

Are you sure about those Solly figures? Seems wrong on both measures.

The weight especially. I'm about 1m 85 but around 10kg lighter than that.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Height and weight doesn't equate to physique.

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Sorry, but yeah, for super fit athletes, height and weight equate to BMI and will correspond to muscle to account for weight.

Solly March has been ripped under his long sleeve Albion shirt for a couple of seasons now, and may well be only 1.8m tall.

You also stated not to find identical, but "find me one white player who has anything like those attributes".

Bale has as muscular physique as Antonio, is probably quicker and is more skillful.

Çağlar Söyüncü no slouch in the guns department either...

 

[Bold Seagull]

Are you sure about those Solly figures? Seems wrong on both measures.

Possibly he's only 1.8m tall, but data seems to place him in the 78 - 88 kg bracket.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

and [MENTION=13265]Super Steve Earle[/MENTION]

The number of xs does not correlate with the number of letters <sigh>

No, but there's no S on the end of French.

 

[Bakero]

No, but there's no S on the end of French.

Frenchies. Or Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, perhaps.

 

[Bakero]

Çağlar Söyüncü no slouch in the guns department either...

Lacking in the calf dept. Clearly skipped leg day.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Sorry, but yeah, for super fit athletes, height and weight equate to BMI and will correspond to muscle to account for weight.

Solly March has been ripped under his long sleeve Albion shirt for a couple of seasons now, and may well be only 1.8m tall.

You also stated not to find identical, but "find me one white player who has anything like those attributes".

Bale has as muscular physique as Antonio, is probably quicker and is more skillful.

They're all ripped, they train every day and have dieticians!

Soyuncu is impressive. Ronaldo as well. There's always going to be exceptions. I'm saying overall that of the players who you look at and think "he's built like a brick shithouse" they're usually black because there is a biological difference in building muscle mass. It's the same in boxing, the exception being Klitschko. When you see a musclebound white boxer you just know he's going to be blowing by the 6th round, Robin Reid springs to mind.

 

[Bold Seagull]

They're all ripped, they train every day and have dieticians!

Soyuncu is impressive. Ronaldo as well. There's always going to be exceptions. I'm saying overall that of the players who you look at and think "he's built like a brick shithouse" they're usually black because there is a biological difference in building muscle mass. It's the same in boxing, the exception being Klitschko. When you see a musclebound white boxer you just know he's going to be blowing by the 6th round, Robin Reid springs to mind.

Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Tyson Fury.... Hasn't the heavy weight boxing been more non black than black champions over the last decade? Think something similar through the divisions. Another misconception maybe?