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final election nsc poll

where is you vote going

  • tories

    Votes: 66 32.5%
  • labour

    Votes: 43 21.2%
  • lb-dems

    Votes: 56 27.6%
  • green

    Votes: 10 4.9%
  • bnp

    Votes: 15 7.4%
  • nat party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • in the bin

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • ukip

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • aids does dallas

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • f*** um

    Votes: 5 2.5%

  • Total voters
    203


Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
Please explain PR to me. With this poll as the result for example, the BNP are the 4th largest party. Would they get an MP?
 




Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
PR is a system where % votes are translated into % seats. But there are other systems.

Under PR, the BNP would get 9% of the seats in the House of Commons.

Under STV, they would probably get 0% of the seats.

Under First Past The Post, they would probably get 0% of the seats.

Under AV+ (with 20% from a party list), they would get roughly 0-2%

(this is based on a uniform 9% vote to BNP in each area)
 
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Please explain PR to me. With this poll as the result for example, the BNP are the 4th largest party. Would they get an MP?

This poll is no guide to the strength of BNP or Green or UKIP support.

It asks people "Who will you vote for?". A BNP supporter in Brighton and Hove doesn't have a BNP candidate to vote for, so won't have responded by stating "BNP". If they have responded "BNP", they're an idiot, because they haven't been paying attention to what's going on.

And that is an important thing about PR. It will not only change the way seats in parliament are won, it will almost certainly change the way people vote.

Under PR, the BNP will almost certainly be putting candidates up for election in whatever multi-member regional constituency replaces the many local constituencies that we now have.

But who says we will have PR? Labour wants an Alternative Vote system, where candidates still stand in small local constituencies that elect just one MP, but voters get to rank them in order of preference. It's "fairer", but it's not PR.
 




sam86

Moderator
Feb 18, 2009
9,947
Is it possible to explain to me, in simple terms, what portion/percentage of votes for each of the main parties needs to happen for there to be a hung parliament? And is this more to do with the general election, or local elections? Cheers. (I'm a right political novice)
 










Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Do be quiet , everyones entitled to their own opinion .

Exactly...but it must be hard for those with far right leanings that we have black players in the team and are now being bankrolled by someone of the Jewish faith.
 






Gav1901

Banned
May 14, 2008
3,775
Southwick
Not when we have a Urugyuan manager, foreign players, and a Jewish chairman

Like several occupations that will not allow BNP members, there is no place in the Albion for these people

Everyone believes what the media says , the BNP is for putting English people first , and for all the illegals to get out the country , im sure Poyet and our team are not illegal .
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
Sam....

The general election is to decide who becomes an MP for each of 650 geographical areas known as 'constituencies.'

The candidate with the most votes in each constituency becomes an MP, who then represents the views of their local people by speaking and voting in the House of Commons, amongst other duties.

Candidates usually belong to a political party.

If one party has at least 326 of their candidates getting the most votes in their constituency, they will have most of the MPs in the House of Commons and will form the government. Usually, their leader is asked by the Queen to become the Prime Minister.

It is called a 'hung parliament' if the party with the most MPs do not have more MPs in the House of Commons than all the other MPs of the other parties put together. In such a situation, all the other MPs could work together to outvote the party in government.

When there is a 'hung parliament', a party that forms the government will usually work with another party to try to prevent this from happening.
 






sam86

Moderator
Feb 18, 2009
9,947
Sam....

The general election is to decide who becomes an MP for each of 650 geographical areas known as 'constituencies.'

The candidate with the most votes in each constituency becomes an MP, who then represents the views of their local people by speaking and voting in the House of Commons, amongst other duties.

Candidates usually belong to a political party.

If one party has at least 326 of their candidates getting the most votes in their constituency, they will have most of the MPs in the House of Commons and will form the government. Usually, their leader is asked by the Queen to become the Prime Minister.

It is called a 'hung parliament' if the party with the most MPs do not have more MPs in the House of Commons than all the other MPs of the other parties put together. In such a situation, all the other MPs could work together to outvote the party in government.

When there is a 'hung parliament', a party that forms the government will usually work with another party to try to prevent this from happening.

Blimey. Red arrows anyone?

I've just been using this clever system -
General Election 2010: See How The Polls Will Affect Parliament And Make Your Own Guesses On Our How Many MPs Feature (you can move the wagon wheel in the middle and click calculate to change the result)

Which seems to suggest, if Conversatives come 1st, and Labour come 2nd (which is my prediction). Conversations will need to be about 15% higher than Labour for there not to be a hung parliament. Is that about right?
 


Don Quixote

Well-known member
Nov 4, 2008
8,362
The BNP gather their votes from the stupid and ill informed mostly. This is why they gain such a low percentage.
 








Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
The BNP gather their votes from the stupid and ill informed mostly. This is why they gain such a low percentage.

...this is actually quite gratifying, to know that such a small percentage of the population are stupid and ill-informed...whoever said that our education system had gone down the pan?
 




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