[Other Sport] Fertility rates fall to record low

[Shropshire Seagull]

Agree, If you see the link I sent to gapminder it shows the Muslim nations (as they get wealthier - Bangladesh Is about 2.5kids per woman, Indonesia is about the same, India (Hindi/muslim before comment comes in) is even lower) are heading the same way as the Western nations, sub-Saharan Africa is where it is still 6 kids per women but as women are educated and move away from subsistence farming the less children they have. generally the “middle class” (in whatever religious society) don’t have lots of kids. My ‘subsistence farming’ great grandparents had 12 kids (4 died at child birth), grandparents about 4 kids, my parents had 3kids, we’ve 2kids, I’m not sure we’ll even get 2 grandkids.

We are all using our blinkered view on life and it’s not our fault:

Can you share birth stats for the Arab countries?

Watching the news on Gaza and Beriut seems to be that large families are commonplace?

 

[Doonhamer7]

Can you share birth stats for the Arab countries?

Watching the news on Gaza and Beriut seems to be that large families are commonplace?

Lebanon 2.4 and Palestine 3.3 (Israel is 2.8) so not true - as Hans says remember how the media sells a story

 

[Doonhamer7]

Just watched on YouTube - Japan currently has 2 deaths to every birth and over 1 in 6 Japanese person is over 75 (over 20million)

 

[RandyWanger]

Anyone seen Children of Men? Good film.

 

[Zeberdi]

overall very little. in the south, probably much of it around towns and cities. there's part of the problem, we've created restrictions on our use of basic land. good way to stop development in the area is get it designated as some land that cant be developed. vast swathes of non-descript land get rolled up in an SSI because a few hectares have some interesting newt colony or we arbitarily think it's a nice view. then people complain about property costing too much and their kids cant live in the area. all self imposed.

Completely disagree with most of this so will refer you back to my original
post - the land vacant/available for building on is comparatively little and not the 98% claimed by the poster I was responding to, if like me you don’t want to live in a Country depleted of wildlife and the only green spaces we see have been given over to intensely monocultured farmland ( that supports little wildlife) or wind farms and solar panels.

I refer you again to the UK science on biodiversity and species threat. Apart from Climate Change, loss of habitat has been the biggest driver of drastic declines in our native wildlife.

It’s not about nimbyism or ‘nice’ views - there’s another category for that - AOBs -

SSSIs are designated by Natural England to protect nature not just rare species but the local ecosystem - for example in my work I often deal with data gathered from years of monitoring populations of birds ( and habitat monitoring ) that use particular sites both for breeding and feeding - if the bird numbers in a local population is significantly important for overall national populations or global populations for the species as a whole, the site will be designated as SSSI.

In Norfolk we also have a lot of geological sites and estuarine and grassland habitat - especially important for nationally rare birds like Stone Curlew and wader species as well rare insects, including the Swallowtail butterfly not found anywhere else in the UK.

Furthermore, the pastures you think are fine to build on are a valuable habitat for nectar rich flowers that support our bee populations ( which are crashing) - without bees many crops and plants would not be pollinated which would have a significant impact on global food sources and human health.

Just because you see a green space without a farm or buildings in it , that does not mean it is right to build on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sites_of_Special_Scientific_Interest_in_Norfolk

 

[Vaughan Storm]

BBC News - Fertility rate in England and Wales drops to new low - BBC News

Fertility rate in England and Wales drops to new low

Just over 591,000 babies were born in the UK last year - the lowest number in four decades

www.bbc.co.uk

Come on you virile youngsters, put your phones down and get jiggy.

Considering how much I see my parents bicker and scream at each other, I don't think I want to

 

[Seagull]

We need a radically reduced population of humans on this planet, a declining birth rate here is a small start!

 

[Eric the meek]

'Now it's actually the most disadvantaged people who are the least likely to start a family because they can't afford it'

This might be the re-emergence of an important and far-reaching societal trend.

I'm particularly struck by the 'selection effect', where women tend to look for someone of the same social class or above when they choose a partner.
It has echoes of a visit to the Avebury stone circle, where the guide described the existence of an ancient two-tier society, in which the farmers were considered a 'catch' for women, as opposed to hunter-gatherers.

The article continues:

'Women are outperforming men in education in 70% of countries worldwide, leading to what Yale sociologist Marcia Inhorn has called “the mating gap”. In Europe, it means that men without a university degree are the group most likely to be childless.'

Social infertility: why birth rates hit an all-time low

Social infertility: why birth rates hit an all-time low

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[jackanada]

Lebanon 2.4 and Palestine 3.3 (Israel is 2.8) so not true - as Hans says remember how the media sells a story

3.3 was probably not far off the replacement rate for Gaza

 

[chickens]

And when the boomers die, as they surely will one day. Who will inherit these six houses you speak of?

Their single child, who’ll use the income to add half a dozen more to the portfolio and then arrange his affairs in a tax-efficient way to hide the income from the public exchequer.

 

[RandyWanger]

We need a radically reduced population of humans on this planet, a declining birth rate here is a small start!

interesting views. Do you support the current wars going on in the Middle East then from a population reduction point of view? or is it only the west that needs to reduce its numbers?

 

[jcdenton08]

You heard the man (Tubbs), get shagging!

 

[Doonhamer7]

We need a radically reduced population of humans on this planet, a declining birth rate here is a small start!

Real growth towards 8 billion population is sub-Saharan Africa with the likes of Tanzania, Congo, Ethiopia to be in top 10 on population in next 30years (Nigeria already in top10)

 

[Eric the meek]

Real growth towards 8 billion population is sub-Saharan Africa with the likes of Tanzania, Congo, Ethiopia to be in top 10 on population in next 30years (Nigeria already in top10)

The population of the world exceeded 8 billion in 2022.

World Population Clock: 8.2 Billion People (LIVE, 2024) - Worldometer

How many people are there in the world? World population has reached 8 billion on November 15, 2022 according to the United Nations. World population live counter with data sheets, graphs, maps, and census data regarding the current, historical, and future world population figures, estimates...

www.worldometers.info

 

[kojak]

Here in France
The French are to occupied by boasting of there skiing holiday and 3 weeks on the beach in August
Whereas the north African population have no interest in such things
In France once you have 4+ kids your benefits amount to the same as having a full time job
Without having to set the alarm clock
A no brainer really