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[Albion] Fabian Hürzeler **SINGED 15/06/2024**

Would Fabian Hurzeler be a good replacement for RDZ?


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Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
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In the field
Is this the same account as the @Whitechapel account ?



We may be arguing semantics here between the difference of informal taks, nods, winks etc and formal negotiations and I am certainly NOT an expert in football/FIFA contract law:

However - As I understand it - The release clause in a contract doesn’t agree the fee the player or manager will eventually transfer out at, it only sets a minimum transfer fee that formal negotiations can even start at, unless that minimum starting point is matched - as with Barco, against Bocca’s wishes, we triggered negotiations for a transfer last summer because he had a release clause in his contract - Man City expressed a higher bid - we sat in the sidelines for months. Barco lost interest in Man City (presumably because he wanted to play for an EPL football not on loan to a Championship side for 12 months) and we submitted a fresh bid in November- (the rest is some complicated negotiation history)

So it if a Club has no interest in selling, they can refuse to open up any serious/formal negotiations if there is NO release clause in their contract with the player/manager.

St Pauli can just say “no” to talks.

That doesn’t mean to say “tapping up” doesn’t go on all the time - of course it does 😎
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Your final sentence is the crucial one.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Is this the same account as the @Whitechapel account ? Just asking - because what seemed like a first person follow up comment in a reply I made to Whitechapel but posted under the username @holybanjo has now
been quickly deleted. Just asking.


We may be arguing semantics here between the difference of informal taks, nods, winks etc and formal negotiations and I am certainly NOT an expert in football/FIFA contract law:

However - As I understand it - The release clause in a contract doesn’t agree the fee the player or manager will eventually transfer out at, it only sets a minimum transfer fee that formal negotiations can even start at, unless that minimum starting point is matched - as with Barco, against Bocca’s wishes, we triggered negotiations for a transfer last summer because he had a release clause in his contract - Man City expressed a higher bid - we sat in the sidelines for months. Barco lost interest in Man City (presumably because he wanted to play for an EPL football not on loan to a Championship side for 12 months) and we submitted a fresh bid in November- (the rest is some complicated negotiation history)

So it if a Club has no interest in selling, they can refuse to open up any serious/formal negotiations if there is NO release clause in their contract with the player/manager.

St Pauli can just say “no” to talks.

That doesn’t mean to say “tapping up” doesn’t go on all the time - of course it does and I am fairly convinced there was some words spoken when FH visited us in January (about the same time RDZ coincidentally was having public grievances about the Club’s recruitment policy 😎).
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They are very much NOT the same account and no one’s been editing quotes AFAIK.

Back to our prospective manager….
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Yes I know - I’ve been following the thread 😉

What I meant was whether since yesterday’s reporting, whether the talks have ended or are still ongoing. The media are usually one or two steps behind the curve. It’s at a stage now where things are happening very quickly.
No new reporting on this since yesterday …
 












dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
16,315
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Can you think of a single case where a Premier League player or manager has had to wait 8 weeks for a work permit?
Work permit is something that came up in the original telegraph article. But I would imagine the guy will be paid at least a Milly a year on a 3 year contract, so I suspect the government would fast track this process seeing he will be paying way over a million in taxes over those 3 years !
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Almería
Work permit is something that came up in the original telegraph article. But I would imagine the guy will be paid at least a Milly a year on a 3 year contract, so I suspect the government would fast track this process seeing as the guy will be paying way over a million in taxes over those 3 years !

Exactly. His application isn't going to be sitting on some bloke's desk for a couple of months.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Work permit is something that came up in the original telegraph article. But I would imagine the guy will be paid at least a Milly a year on a 3 year contract, so I suspect the government would fast track this process seeing he will be paying way over a million in taxes over those 3 years !
He needs a Governing Body Endorsement

 




Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Work permit is something that came up in the original telegraph article. But I would imagine the guy will be paid at least a Milly a year on a 3 year contract, so I suspect the government would fast track this process seeing as the guy will be paying way over a million in taxes over those 3 years !
'A Milly,' that's up there with Tekkers, Maccy Ds and trackie bottoms!
 








Whitechapel

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Jul 19, 2014
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Is this the same account as the @Whitechapel account ? Just asking - because what seemed like a first person follow up comment in a reply I made to Whitechapel but posted under the username @holybanjo has now
been quickly deleted. Just asking.


We may be arguing semantics here between the difference of informal taks, nods, winks etc and formal negotiations and I am certainly NOT an expert in football/FIFA contract law:

However - As I understand it - The release clause in a contract doesn’t agree the fee the player or manager will eventually transfer out at, it only sets a minimum transfer fee that formal negotiations can even start at, unless that minimum starting point is matched - as with Barco, against Bocca’s wishes, we triggered negotiations for a transfer last summer because he had a release clause in his contract - Man City expressed a higher bid - we sat in the sidelines for months. Barco lost interest in Man City (presumably because he wanted to play for an EPL football not on loan to a Championship side for 12 months) and we submitted a fresh bid in November- (the rest is some complicated negotiation history)

So it if a Club has no interest in selling, they can refuse to open up any serious/formal negotiations if there is NO release clause in their contract with the player/manager.

St Pauli can just say “no” to talks.

That doesn’t mean to say “tapping up” doesn’t go on all the time - of course it does and I am fairly convinced there was some words spoken when FH visited us in January (about the same time RDZ coincidentally was having public grievances about the Club’s recruitment policy 😎).
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I post enough shit on this account, I definitely don’t need to do it on another one too.
 






Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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You need a GBE to get a work permit. The criteria are in the link.

Not a Milly, whoever she is.
In some countries (obviously I've never tried applying for a UK work permit), Hurzeler would be young enough to qualify a Working Holiday visa and could come over for 2/3 years without meeting any other requirement. Sounds perfect for a prospective football manager now that I think about it. :lolol:
 








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