oldboyroy
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I want his post match comments. If he apologises to fans and admit we were poor including himself then fair enough. If its trust the process and we had lots of possession but weren't clinical then he's lost the plot
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[Albion] Fab OUT
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Mancgull
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Agree with that. Combination of naivety and arrogance. Not a good combination. I’m Fab out too. Lots of experienced managers around who have forged young teams.
Ethelwulf
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Fabian Hurzeler believes Albion will come through a test of character as they try to recover from their worst league defeat for 67 years.
Saturday's 7-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest at the City Ground was Albion’s heaviest league loss since losing 9-0 to Middlesbrough on the opening day of the 1958-59 campaign.
Hurzeler said, “It was a bad performance and result. We win together and we lose together and now I want to see a reaction from the team.
“It is going to be a test for the group and the individuals’ character [as to] how we deal with this. Maybe it’s a signal for us to reflect. It is part of the business of football to deal with these setbacks and respond. We were not on our highest level, so we need to be honest and take responsibility, and I’m sure we will.
“We have to apologise to the supporters for the result. It was a bad game for us.”
Hurzeler admitted it was his lowest point as a young coach but added, “Don’t worry about me, I can lift myself. Although I’m new in the Premier League I am sure I will find solutions. Bad losses are part of the journey, and you have to go through them sometimes. It’s now about me taking the responsibility to support my players and give them the right solutions to get back on the winning track.
“Today we wanted to play offensively and with courage and you can say in the end that was a mistake.
“We created more than we did last week but you need a balance between defensive stability and controlling the game in possession. Their goalkeeper was amazing but out of possession we were not on the field. And when it’s like this, you can’t win games.”
Saturday's 7-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest at the City Ground was Albion’s heaviest league loss since losing 9-0 to Middlesbrough on the opening day of the 1958-59 campaign.
Hurzeler said, “It was a bad performance and result. We win together and we lose together and now I want to see a reaction from the team.
“It is going to be a test for the group and the individuals’ character [as to] how we deal with this. Maybe it’s a signal for us to reflect. It is part of the business of football to deal with these setbacks and respond. We were not on our highest level, so we need to be honest and take responsibility, and I’m sure we will.
“We have to apologise to the supporters for the result. It was a bad game for us.”
Hurzeler admitted it was his lowest point as a young coach but added, “Don’t worry about me, I can lift myself. Although I’m new in the Premier League I am sure I will find solutions. Bad losses are part of the journey, and you have to go through them sometimes. It’s now about me taking the responsibility to support my players and give them the right solutions to get back on the winning track.
“Today we wanted to play offensively and with courage and you can say in the end that was a mistake.
“We created more than we did last week but you need a balance between defensive stability and controlling the game in possession. Their goalkeeper was amazing but out of possession we were not on the field. And when it’s like this, you can’t win games.”
JetsetJimbo
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- Jun 13, 2011
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Performances and results have just been too poor too often.
Let Milner pick the team 'til the end of the season, then pluck McKenna from Ipswich if/when they go down.
Let Milner pick the team 'til the end of the season, then pluck McKenna from Ipswich if/when they go down.
AstroSloth
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- Dec 29, 2020
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And when we put on two midfielders we conceded 4 in a half.
Hometownglory
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- Jan 12, 2014
- 846
This ^^
Basil Fawlty
Don't Mention The War
Feel like he has learnt something from this game, but far to late to now realise this. I thought I was reading a Graham Potter interview for a moment there.Fabian Hurzeler believes Albion will come through a test of character as they try to recover from their worst league defeat for 67 years.
Saturday's 7-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest at the City Ground was Albion’s heaviest league loss since losing 9-0 to Middlesbrough on the opening day of the 1958-59 campaign.
Hurzeler said, “It was a bad performance and result. We win together and we lose together and now I want to see a reaction from the team.
“It is going to be a test for the group and the individuals’ character [as to] how we deal with this. Maybe it’s a signal for us to reflect. It is part of the business of football to deal with these setbacks and respond. We were not on our highest level, so we need to be honest and take responsibility, and I’m sure we will.
“We have to apologise to the supporters for the result. It was a bad game for us.”
Hurzeler admitted it was his lowest point as a young coach but added, “Don’t worry about me, I can lift myself. Although I’m new in the Premier League I am sure I will find solutions. Bad losses are part of the journey, and you have to go through them sometimes. It’s now about me taking the responsibility to support my players and give them the right solutions to get back on the winning track.
“Today we wanted to play offensively and with courage and you can say in the end that was a mistake.
“We created more than we did last week but you need a balance between defensive stability and controlling the game in possession. Their goalkeeper was amazing but out of possession we were not on the field. And when it’s like this, you can’t win games.”
Forster's Armband
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I don't think it's arrogance at all. I think he's far from arrogant. He's just completely and utterly out of his depth. He needed a job between St Pauli and Us (hindsight of course) to bridge the gap and he's falling woefully short. I think he's lost the team and he needs to go. The problem is who takes over. No one springs to mind to be honest. We are probably stuck with him.
I'm a pretty positive supporter in the main. Never come online looking to get an early agenda in so I can gloat later on. I've consistently tried to be positive and back him but there are loads of things that have bothered me for ages. Mostly his chopping and changing and lack of focus on a way of playing. His weird missing out of a midfield and just some of the general look of some of the players. Few players have pushed on except Ayari (and perhaps Valeba but I think he would have shined even more in a different, better organised team) or developed and a number have gone significantly backwards. Compare that to the effects of both Potter and RDZ in relatively short time scales. When I hear him talk in press conferences im always really impressed, but when I hear him speak to the players he just doesn't sound like a person of consequence or believeable. They say that a camel is horse designed by committee. Well that's what we look like.
I'd love to want to say stick with him, he's young, he's learning, he may come good and be great. All that MIGHT be true, but I don't see it, and Brighton aren't his personal development plaything. We are at the apex of high level sport and require someone who can do it now.
The concern has to be that as a manager he is in regression. Also none of the players are improving. Something our previous managers done was to improve players quickly, there seems to be none or little of this happening? Our so called flair players seem to no longer have any. Is it the system he plays? You never see our wingers one on one anymore, they always have to beat 2 or 3 to do anything? The lack of pace in defence has been a constant worry. Are there only 2 left backs in the whole club? What has happened to Ferguson and Adingra?
The manager needs to address some obvious areas quickly
The manager needs to address some obvious areas quickly
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Yep the tactics set up by RDZ was isolate the opponents back line with overloads leaving one on ones instead of individuals having to beat three players.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Obvious thing to say but the next three games demand a huge improv or things will get very nasty. He don’t need to win all three, but there must be a clear and obvious response to this shambles.
If we get turned over by Chelsea twice, fair enough. But if we also perform badly at Saints I think there will be a huge sway in opinion.
If we get turned over by Chelsea twice, fair enough. But if we also perform badly at Saints I think there will be a huge sway in opinion.
Don Tmatter
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But they’re both attacking midfielders
Jackthelad
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- Mar 31, 2010
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One of the worst losses in our history…Manager “its part of the business of football”
Nope 7-0 losses aren’t.
Nope 7-0 losses aren’t.
John Byrnes Mullet
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Today's result and many other poor performances this season showed FH is out of his depth as a coach in the Premier League. So bored of his press conferences post and pre match. Uncle Tony got it wrong this time. FH football is a bore to watch.
AstroSloth
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- Dec 29, 2020
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So why would starting them at defensive midfield have been a good option as many have said?
- Apr 5, 2014
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I'm stunned by some of the responses here, even for a football forum. Only two weeks ago Albion completed three away wins in a week. They currently sit three points off potential European places. But it is Europe which has perhaps altered some folk's mindsets.
In the second half of last season, Albion performed at relegation levels. In fact, only the three teams that dropped were worse. That was our starting point for this season. Europe cannot be used as an excuse, there were only two matches in that time.
So Albion started this season in need of urgent improvement. They sit 17 points above the relegation places and in no danger. It has been a topsy turvy year, but a safe one. They are back close to where they were. This with effectively a new team and a new manager. So, despite today's drubbing, there is no need to make any drastic changes when everything is considered in a sober light.
The amount spent on new signings is very much a red herring. It was an affordable overhaul that was needed. But it means a lot of changes. The most likely outcome this season was comfortable consolidation and hopefully a punt at Europe. That is what has happened.
As for Fab. I don't know if he is a long term option or not. But I certainly wouldn't be pulling the plug when there is no need to. Unless there were serious internal issues. Some have suggested there are. But as you would expect, in the most Trumpian way. There is no evidence of this at all.
Today was a heavy defeat. These things happen every blue moon. The best folk can do is go back to their knitting or the latest binge watch and forget about it. I'm going to watch the rugby now, so I guess there will be no solace there. But I don't think there is any terminal decline, until there is. And, even if there was, Albion are safe this season. But talking of declines seems a bit silly to me now given the events of a couple of weeks back. Perspective.
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Lush
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Our policy of buying young stars with potential cheap from abroad should never have been extended to the manager IMO.
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This should really be pinned at the top of the page so everyone is forced to read it before posting.
DarrenFreemansPerm
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The game was gone by then, the heads had dropped and Forest had the initiative, they knew Hurzeler was always going to keep pushing so they could sit in and counter, which they’re exceptional at.
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