FA Humiliation at FIFA

[cunning fergus]

The FA should sit down and shut up, they are equally as corrupt as FIFA both as an organisation and individually. It is beyond belief that anyone should think that the FA are a more honest pig to any other pigs in the sty.

How quickly we have forgotton the whole Treisman affair and why the FA cancelled the Thailand friendly by England. Or what about the FA's own archaic voting sytems and lack of transparency

Do we really think the FA didn't get into horse trading with other countries FAs with the 2018 bid? Now they want to go on about integrity..........what a laugh.

This is all about 2018 and we should have played the FIFA game without any handwringing and bribed everyone involved...............when we did it on the olympics we got them.

 

[ROSM]

I love it that we have so many of the nations with questionable Human Rights records telling us how we should and shouldn't act on this.

There were 17 votes supporting our proposal and 17 abstentions. What would be intersting to know is who they came from - I wouldn't be surprised if some of the abstentions came from other bigger countries and the supporting statements came from places such as Australia and key areas that FIFA need onside.

I suspect that the impact of the FA's stance will not be seen in public votes but moreover by what people are saying in the background.

 

[Don Quixote]

Football was invented here etc.

 

[portlock seagull]

The world is simply a corrupt place. Always has been, always will be. That's all this proves (how many behind the scenes calls and envelopes have been exchanged in recent days I wonder?)

We're just a bit (a bit, we're not whiter than white in this) less corrupt than others. And, like the game itself, not as good as many other countries are.

 

[Commander]

Why would they exactly. There's still 207 countries in. The sponsors might care rather more.

I think the countries that host the word cup would be disappointed about not having 50,000 England fans turning up spending millions of pounds. We take way more fans than any other country to international tournaments, they aren't the same without England.

 

[brakespear]

FIFA need to get their heads round the fact that they do not OWN World Football - they are supposed to be there to govern it and look after the best interests of the game as a whole.

Precisely this. And it still greatly puzzles me how any organisation, no matter how powerful can suspend the only opponent to the incumbent and still hold the election - if this happened in North Africa they'd be out in the streets already.

 

[Commander]

""I am the captain weathering the storm"

Yeah course you are Sepp, you slimy little worm.

 

[ROSM]

The FA is little better than FIFA itself.

Prior to the WC vote, England originally were scheduled to play Thailand in just over a week, this was an attempt to win a vot for the 2018 bid. Similarly the FA were making donations to local associations in Africa, Asia etc.

Unfortunately our attempts to incentivise delegates weren't as big as Russia's, but let's not take the moral high ground as it stinks of hypocrisy.

I take your point El Pres - although agreeing to play a friendly isn't actually a bribe (we played in Trinidad a couple of years ago for the same reason) - making donations to local associations also isn't against the rules.

If we'd paid for the TV rights (that didn't exist) for Haiti - that would have been illegal.

We may have had some real numpties in the FA over the years (Graham Kelly, Mark Palios, Wiseman etc) but where they've gone over the line they have been pulled up quickly and got rid of.

 

[portlock seagull]

Best thing that can happen to world football is a plane carrying the whole rotten structure of FIFA, the FA etc were to have "engine difficulties" on route to one of their congresses; and start a fresh. Unfortunately I don't think there's a plane big enough. Besides, knowing my luck it would land on my house...

 

[sydney]

it all comes down to the filthy dollar at the end of the day , and that's about it really.The beautiful game that we cherish so dearly is viewed by these people as a cash cow to be milked until it is down,f***ed , on all fours.......makes me f***ing sick.

 

[Mr Blobby]

This shows how the corrupt members are attempting to silence those that are honest!!

Concacaf general secretary Chuck Blazer, who made bribery allegations against Fifa, appears to have survived an attempt to sack him.

Lisle Austin, the acting president of Concacaf, had sent Blazer a letter saying he was "terminated as general secretary with immediate effect".

But Concacaf's executive committee has said the sacking was "unauthorised".

 

[Gritt23]

The problem is that the FA's moral crusade has come off the back of a losing World Cup bid.

Which is why the development today of the German FA demanding an investigation into how the 2022 World Cup was awarded to Qatar is perhaps the most significant development, as they don't have an axe to grind, they don't face the retort of "sour grapes", they are just looking to clean up FIFA before it falls into such a pit of corruption that sponsors run for the hills and they can't replace them.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I think the countries that host the word cup would be disappointed about not having 50,000 England fans turning up spending millions of pounds. We take way more fans than any other country to international tournaments, they aren't the same without England.

Agreed the hosting country might care, but FIFA wouldn't.

 

[Tooting Gull]

The FA is little better than FIFA itself.

Prior to the WC vote, England originally were scheduled to play Thailand in just over a week, this was an attempt to win a vot for the 2018 bid. Similarly the FA were making donations to local associations in Africa, Asia etc.

Unfortunately our attempts to incentivise delegates weren't as big as Russia's, but let's not take the moral high ground as it stinks of hypocrisy.

Oh come on, you can't seriously believe that. You think the FA are allowed to operate like FIFA? Of course they aren't, they are a million times more accountable. The FA were bidding to host a World Cup, and they did what they were allowed to to win it within the rules, otherwise there is no point being in it. The fact you even know about those incentives just proves the point. It's the stuff we don't/didn't know about that is more frightening.

In FIFA you have an organisation with no transparency, and almost impossible to hold up to proper scrutiny leading to the sort of stuff that has gone on there for a decade. The FA can be accused of many things, but they are not corrupt, just as our referees might be hopeless but they aren't bent.

 

[El Presidente]

Oh come on, you can't seriously believe that. You think the FA are allowed to operate like FIFA? Of course they aren't, they are a million times more accountable. The FA were bidding to host a World Cup, and they did what they were allowed to to win it within the rules, otherwise there is no point being in it. The fact you even know about those incentives just proves the point. It's the stuff we don't/didn't know about that is more frightening.

In FIFA you have an organisation with no transparency, and almost impossible to hold up to proper scrutiny leading to the sort of stuff that has gone on there for a decade. The FA can be accused of many things, but they are not corrupt, just as our referees might be hopeless but they aren't bent.

The favourite to take over from Capello is Harry Redknapp, Ken Bates was in charge of Wembley stadium being redeveloped, nuff said?

 

[strings]

Which is why the development today of the German FA demanding an investigation into how the 2022 World Cup was awarded to Qatar is perhaps the most significant development, as they don't have an axe to grind, they don't face the retort of "sour grapes", they are just looking to clean up FIFA before it falls into such a pit of corruption that sponsors run for the hills and they can't replace them.

First I've heard of that - good stuff too.

I've always loved those Germans.

 

[brakespear]

Agreed the hosting country might care, but FIFA wouldn't.

I think there must be quite a lot of sponsors money to be made out of England being at a World Cup - and where does all the sponsors money go?

 

[Tooting Gull]

The favourite to take over from Capello is Harry Redknapp, nuff said?

Not really. What has that got to do with football governance? He's the best English candidate on football grounds. We're not appointing him as finance director, and he's not signing players (thankfully).

 

[keaton]

Great post - one of the surefire ways of detecting someone with something grubby to hide is the way they blame the media for raising inconvenient questions.

FIFA is a joke with anyone who really cares about football and I wouldn't lose a moment's sleep if we withdrew from it. But the English FA, while not corrupt as far as I know, offers no vision or leadership either.

I think one of the main problems is that the FA were dismissive of our press before the vote and apologised for it. To then lose and go , actually our press do have a point makes them look like bad losers.
They did nothing about corruption until it cost them

 

[El Presidente]

Not really. What has that got to do with football governance? He's the best English candidate on football grounds. We're not appointing him as finance director, and he's not signing players (thankfully).

Governance should run throughout an organisation, if your frontline employee is as shady as Harry then it says little for the organisation itself.