[Albion] FA Cup Fourth Round 7-11/2/25

[Rdodge30]

5 offside and the commentator on talksport said “I’m ok with that”

 

[Pevenseagull]

The linetwat is probably so used to other people doing their job that they forgot how to do their job.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

ITV no mention that it wasn't even a handball for the freekick.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

The thing is, that sort of decision was always rife in the game. It's nothing new and VAR is certainly not responsible for lower officiating standards when it gets switched off.

There are sticks to beat VAR with - notably the delay it involves (which statistically is actually now improving) - but let's not pretend the reasons for it's introduction never existed. It was brought in because games like this were too often being decided by decisions like this. Now those 1200 Leicester fans have to go home pissed off because of officiating incompetence, rather than because their team deserved to be beaten.

But what Ruud just said was true. You don't need VAR for that.

VAR gets loads of stuff wrong because the officials are just utter shit. The Estupinan disallowed goal v Palace, I mean, there's just loads of examples.

Whether there's VAR or not VAR, it's almost impossible to proceed with that level of incompetence

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

5 offside and the commentator on talksport said “I’m ok with that”

Then he/she is a prick.

 

[Berty23]

It is weird. The whole lot of them were never close to onside. They stood in an offside position and didn’t even try to get onside in the Arsenal way of moving between defenders. All I can think is the Lino was trying to get people to demand var.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Funny, I'm firmly FOR VAR, and find myself not needing to organise or even express my thoughts in the face of that.

You'll probably only have to wait for the next round or two of league games to find a howler which VAR does nothing positive to resolve or makes actively worse

 

[Berty23]

Clearly offside. But this is where VAR has its values. It's hard for a linesman to judge the point of which the ball is struck and correlation of the players movements, especially when he doesn't know who is going to score the goal. So it's a clear error, but it's much harder to call these things than it is to publish a damning still from a video.

He was never onside. Not even close.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

There are sticks to beat VAR with - notably the delay it involves (which statistically is actually now improving) -

And if we are being honest, it's only improved in speed from horrifically slow to very slow

 

[Berty23]

ITV no mention that it wasn't even a handball for the freekick.

I said that to my mate I was watching with. Never a pen in the box as arm inside silhouette. Garnacho gave the free kick and then fergie gave onside. Remarkably poor.

 

[Simster]

But what Ruud just said was true. You don't need VAR for that.

VAR gets loads of stuff wrong because the officials are just utter shit. The Estupinan disallowed goal v Palace, I mean, there's just loads of examples.

Whether there's VAR or not VAR, it's almost impossible to proceed with that level of incompetence

No there really aren't "loads of examples" of VAR getting it wrong. You've named one, and I doubt you could name more than 1, maybe 2 more.

And clearly RvN is wrong, because with VAR in place, that goal wouldn't have stood. Mistakes have always happened, and some of them have been far more horrific than that.

VAR was awful in the first season. It improves year in year and eventually we are going to get to the point where it will be used appropriately and in reasonable time every single time it's needed. We are not there yet, but it is getting better.

Ill just finish by once again pointing the absolute nonsense that you and the big nosed prick have trotted out - that VAR isn't needed for that decision. Clearly it is.

 

[Simster]

And if we are being honest, it's only improved in speed from horrifically slow to very slow

That's just not true. The only time we've seen it be too slow was for the Southampton goal that was ruled out, and even that I can sort of understand.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

5 offside and the commentator on talksport said “I’m ok with that”

Is that because he's a genius or a Jenas?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

You'll probably only have to wait for the next round or two of league games to find a howler which VAR does nothing positive to resolve or makes actively worse

Mmmm..... normally I agree with you, but you are way off with that

 

[Simster]

You'll probably only have to wait for the next round or two of league games to find a howler which VAR does nothing positive to resolve or makes actively worse

What are you talking about? How has VAR ever made anything actively worse this season?

It was being used to give stupid hand balls in its first year, but since then the decisions have been 99% spot on. If you want to criticise it, you can talk about delays, but this idea that it makes things actively worse makes you seem clueless and incapable of changing your own mind in the face of actual evidence

 

[Bodian]

That's just not true. The only time we've seen it be too slow was for the Southampton goal that was ruled out, and even that I can sort of understand.

Didn't a Liverpool goal/offside take about five minutes the other week? And Rutter's goal took them ages to check for no real reason. And that one where they couldn't decide if our guy (Dunk?) was interfering with play or not and looked at about three different things trying to rule it out that took almost five minutes.

 

[Simster]

Didn't a Liverpool goal/offside take about five minutes the other week? And Rutter's goal took them ages to check for no real reason. And that one where they couldn't decide if our guy (Dunk?) was interfering with play or not and looked at about three different things trying to rule it out that took almost five minutes.

Possibly. I know sometimes it takes too long to arrive at a decision in which case they should revert to the original on field decision. And if people want to say they dislike VAR because of these delays then I can respect that. My personal opinion is that such delays will eventually be ironed out over time, and we are already seeing far shorter delays and fewer stupid VAR influenced decisions than we did when it first came into force.

What I don't like is this rewriting of history to suggest VAR doesn't fix anything, or the idea that VAR is somehow to blame for falling standards of officiating. They're both absolute nonsense.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

What are you talking about? How has VAR ever made anything actively worse this season?

It was being used to give stupid hand balls in its first year, but since then the decisions have been 99% spot on. If you want to criticise it, you can talk about delays, but this idea that it makes things actively worse makes you seem clueless and incapable of changing your own mind in the face of actual evidence

I've thought about it. And yes I was talking bollocks. Those kind of Diaz / Estupinan incidents are rare

But

I retain my conviction. I would take howlers like that against us in order to be able to properly celebrate goals when we score them.

And who knows, maybe even one of the howlers will go for us some day. But probably not away at a big 6 side.

 

[Simster]

I've thought about it. And yes I was talking bollocks. Those kind of Diaz / Estupinan incidents are rare

But

I retain my conviction. I would take howlers like that against us in order to be able to properly celebrate goals when we score them.

And who knows, maybe even one of the howlers will go for us some day. But probably not away at a big 6 side.

Fair play. I disagree but that's fine.

Anyway in theory VAR should work in our favour as it should help neutralise that unconscious bias that officials seem to have when at a big club's ground.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I wonder if the linesman wasn't even watching carefully as in his mind he thought VAR would bail him out if he was wrong