FA Commission report - the plan to save English football = B Teams

[Not Andy Naylor]

Fine let then have a reserve league then why does this need to come into the football league?

Because the results won't matter and nobody will come to watch it. The alleged point of the new system is to give young players competitive games in front of involved crowds.

 

[Seasider78]

Just read the document and there's more questions than answers to the problem.

Introducing a B team into the league will be be a massive undertaking by some clubs, not the rich sugar daddy clubs but the middle of the road clubs. The expectation of using a local smaller stadium (costs of updating) or building a purpose built stadium and the problems that could encounter.

The conflict of interest between senior club and partner club. A change in manager could result in the senior club pulling out of the agreement leaving the partner club in the s**t.

The Premiership and Championship clubs are expected to pay for all this with extra payments going down the pyramid. What a great idea but unlikely.

Most Championship clubs are losing money hand over fist. Most middle to lower Premiership clubs are frightened of relegation and the cost. They are unlikely to be able to afford to subsidise lower league teams to the extent expected.

Where does it leave the development of players owned by lower league clubs and their ability to sell on these players, seen as life blood for many?

We have seen for years the main reason many clubs opt for foreign players is cost even down the leagues. British players demand higher fees.

What's or where is the incentive for foreign owned clubs, with their demand of instant success, going to come from. Add to this the amount of foreign managers/coaches in the top levels where's their incentive to help develop home talent when they've got the board on their backs.

All the way down the leagues wages are stupidly high and until this is addressed clubs will have their hands tied. Problem is all the time the Man Citys of this world are prepared to bankroll success it will not change.

None of this has taken into account the feelings of lower league clubs and more importantly the supporters.

What's it all for?

So we can watch a competitive England play a few times a year and perhaps compete in a competition finals every two. Is it worth it? I'd say most supporters are pretty much not bothered about England but want their own team to be the best.

Excellent post

 

[The Large One]

Because the results won't matter and nobody will come to watch it. The alleged point of the new system is to give young players competitive games in front of involved crowds.

A point totally undermined (in Germany at least) in the WSC link in post #39.

 

[Scoffers]

At least it would give rise to a few more chants

"Going down with the Arsenal B' or 'West Ham B on a Tuesday Night'

Its just pathetic to be honest

 

[Black Rod]

Worth looking at this article from seven years ago about problems with B Teams in Germany.

http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/923-Europe/598-the-killer-bs

Would be interesting to see what a comparative article would look like now that they have a national third tier and one of the best sides in the world

 

[Seasider78]

Because the results won't matter and nobody will come to watch it. The alleged point of the new system is to give young players competitive games in front of involved crowds.

Pretty sure we are already doing that as Barkley, Wilshire, Shaw, Lallana, Rodriguez, Wilson have shown. No doubt they are playing in front of good crowds at the top level

Good English players make it through the problem has been we don't produce as many of them and that lies at the academies door.. I am still not convinced that playing against Yeovil is going to prepare a Manchester United B player for a champions league tie at juventus and propel them into the England side.

 

[del strangefish]

That report has taken 8 months to compile

Thats 160 Business Lunches excluding weekends.

 

[north stand seagull]

never heard such a horse**** plan in all my life

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Thats 160 Business Lunches excluding weekends.

And a steady flow of drugs for Rio, allegedly.

 

[The Large One]

Would be interesting to see what a comparative article would look like now that they have a national third tier and one of the best sides in the world

Germany has three national leagues (as opposed to England's five), and there are two 'second' teams in 3.Liga (Stuttgart and Dortmund).

After that, it's regional leagues, with attendances about on a par with Conference South level.

 

[s5.bha]

Two words sum this up...........Danny Mills............for f**ks sake !!!

 

[Husty]

Terrible idea. How has it made it THIS far?

B teams in any kind of competitive league in which there are clubs with a decent fan base (500+ home attendances) will destroy that league in an instant. Near meaningless games played infront of empty, fan-unfriendly grounds.

The idea of putting them into the conference is laughable anyway as many of them are at a much higher standard and there are some massive clubs down there.

 

[Husty]

Germany has three national leagues (as opposed to England's five), and there are two 'second' teams in 3.Liga (Stuttgart and Dortmund).

After that, it's regional leagues, with attendances about on a par with Conference South level.

Exactly.

One thing we have is a brilliant league structure with good attendances numbers going way, WAY down the pyramid. No other country comes close to us and the FA wants to destroy it for the sake of maybe getting a couple more CL trophies in the UK.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Did the owners of Whitehawk FC have inside info

 

[loz]

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams

 

[Silverhatch]

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams

Signed. It's staggering the arrogance and ineptitude, and lack of empathy, of the upper echelons of Football in this country (administrators, clubs and media). Sort a problem that can be completely laid at the door of Sky, the top 6 and the EPL and FA (the guardians of the game) by ****ing about with the football pyramid. Shocking.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

'It's Morecambe against Manchester City B...and it's live an exclusive...

ON SKY SPORTS 1'

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Wonder how many we'd take to Old Trafford to watch us play Manchester United B in league 1? Doesn't sound that appetising does it.

 

[Screaming J]

I have considered these proposals in detail and after weighing up the pros and cons my conclusion is this :-


**** OFF GREG DYKE

 

[saafend_seagull]

A simple solution is for it to be mandatory to have two British u21 players in your first 11.