[Misc] F1 2021

[Guinness Boy]

No, because I was a Button fan.

I suppose it was Oasis or Blur, Stones or Beatles thing.


I did have a great poster of James Hunt and Barry Sheene, double world champions in 76 though.

I would pay big bucks to get that back, I think my parents binned it after I left home......gutted.

Good old Sheene and Hunt, back when British racing drivers were white and didn’t speak out of turn.


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[Sid in the Sharknado]

It doesn’t. You make all your comments about Hamilton etc. You replied to me only half hour ago with this:



When I said you must have Hamilton’s first title posters on your walls then, you said you supported Button, who was of course in a Honda.

2007 to 2009 the only British driver in a British team was Lewis Hamilton, fair to assume you supported him in that period given your quoted statement.

You seem a bit touchy about it?

Aren't the Mercedes F1 team based in Brackley anyway?
For that matter, apart from Ferrari, Alpha Romeo and AlphaTauri they're all based in Britain.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Good old Sheene and Hunt, back when British racing drivers were white and didn’t speak out of turn.


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How on earth and why on earth would you bring colour into this?

 

[Bry Nylon]

Aren't the Mercedes F1 team based in Brackley anyway?
For that matter, apart from Ferrari, Alpha Romeo and AlphaTauri they're all based in Britain.

Yup - I’m fairly sure the Mercedes team is the old Braun F1 team, founded by Ross Braun?

 

[Weststander]

Good old Sheene and Hunt, back when British racing drivers were white and didn’t speak out of turn.


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Why did Hamilton have to stick his nose into alleged racism? What’t it got to do with him?

Sheene and Hunt didn’t.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Yup - I’m fairly sure the Mercedes team is the old Braun F1 team, founded by Ross Braun?

It was Brawn, Honda before that, I'd have to look it up before that but it wasn't Honda originally. BAR or something like that? It will have been based in the UK anyway. I think I'm right in saying that apart from Jackie Stewart's Tatra or whatever it was called all the non-Ferrari championship winning cars have been designed in Britain.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Aren't the Mercedes F1 team based in Brackley anyway?
For that matter, apart from Ferrari, Alpha Romeo and AlphaTauri they're all based in Britain.

Mercedes F1 is Ken Tyrrell’s old team:
Tyrrell Racing
British American Racing
Honda F1
Brawn GP
Mercedes

But despite HQ and history don’t think you can call Mercedes a British team, but yeah Britain is the heart of F1.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Mercedes F1 is Ken Tyrrell’s old team:
Tyrrell Racing
British American Racing
Honda F1
Brawn GP
Mercedes

But despite HQ and history don’t think you can call Mercedes a British team, but yeah Britain is the heart of F1.

Why not? They drive under a German license but the work happens in Britain. Cars aren't designed by paperwork and flags after all.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Why not? They drive under a German license but the work happens in Britain. Cars aren't designed by paperwork and flags after all.

It’s funded and run by a German company. It was a Japanese team when Honda as it was run and funded by a Japanese company. It would be a bit like saying all Hondas and Nissans made in the UK are British cars?

 

[Weststander]

Mercedes F1 is Ken Tyrrell’s old team:
Tyrrell Racing
British American Racing
Honda F1
Brawn GP
Mercedes

But despite HQ and history don’t think you can call Mercedes a British team, but yeah Britain is the heart of F1.

Our engineering excellence, along with some great Austrian/German input and €€€€ …. an enduring hell for arrogant Ferrari.

So good, they finally conceded we’re better by poaching Brawn, Stepney and Byrne in the late 90’s.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

It’s funded and run by a German company. It was a Japanese team when Honda as it was run and funded by a Japanese company. It would be a bit like saying all Hondas and Nissans made in the UK are British cars?

Personally if the team's based in Britain I consider it to be British, regardless of where the money comes from. When I've worked on a bridge design in South Australia, the design work was done in a British office, regardless of the fact that the South Australian government was paying for it.

I'd view the original Honda team as Japanese, since as far as I know it was set up and run in Japan. Similarly the original Mercedes team was German. But I don't care if a foreign company buys a team and changes the nationality on the license.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Personally if the team's based in Britain I consider it to be British, regardless of where the money comes from. When I've worked on a bridge design in South Australia, the design work was done in a British office, regardless of the fact that the South Australian government was paying for it.

I'd view the original Honda team as Japanese, since as far as I know it was set up and run in Japan. Similarly the original Mercedes team was German. But I don't care if a foreign company buys a team and changes the nationality on the license.

Well, that’s fair enough. I guess this only came up because Mouldy said he prefers to support a British Driver in a British team. Given Brackley was home to Tyrrell Racing, perhaps Hamilton still is.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Well, that’s fair enough. I guess this only came up because Mouldy said he prefers to support a British Driver in a British team.

You might say that. I couldn't possibly comment.

I've had enough arguments with you on the cricket threads, I've no desire to argue with you about a sport I don't know anything about

I'm mainly trying to take my mind off the horror show earlier while I'm on the train home.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

You might say that. I couldn't possibly comment.

I've had enough arguments with you on the cricket threads, I've no desire to argue with you about a sport I don't know anything about

I'm mainly trying to take my mind off the horror show earlier while I'm on the train home.

I think cricket is best left alone now for the moment too!

 

[Audax]

Yup - I’m fairly sure the Mercedes team is the old Braun F1 team, founded by Ross Braun?

Brawn. But yes, Merc bought Brawn. But Brawn was Honda. And before that, it was BAR. And before BAR it was Tyrell.

Edit: late to the party

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

You really did spoil it with this last line.

I was a Button fan because he is a true gent and a decent racing car driver in a British car, what's wrong with that?

Err, that Max Verstappen is Dutch and not a gent and drives a car with an Austrian license and sponsored by a Swiss energy drink.
Based in England maybe but not really a thoroughbred British team are they.
Now if you croaked on about Williams and George Russell or McClaren and Lando Norris as much as you do a Dutchman then you would have a valid point.
You need a 50/50 flag in your Avatar.

 

[Nitram]

Be interesting if the penalties are applied to Max Sunday morning, he could be moved back three places along with Bottas.* That will make it interesting. Also being reported that Hamilton is saving his engine used from last week for the last two races and is using the Mexico one this time! That’s a bit of a game changer for the last two races!
* for ignoring yellow flags.

 

[Icy Gull]

“F1 title leader Max Verstappen's front-row starting position at the Qatar GP is under threat after he was summoned to meet with F1 stewards ahead of Sunday's race for allegedly failing to slow for yellow flags on his final lap of qualifying.

The Red Bull driver, who leads the championship by 14 points, qualified second behind a dominant Lewis Hamilton but will now head to see the stewards at 10am UK time. The race is at 2pm.”

I don’t understand what explanation he could give? Why hasn’t he been punished already?

I suppose the stewards will let him off with a warning so as to keep the drama of Hamilton/Verstappen starting 1 & 2 intact?

Let me guess…absolutely nothing will happen, the Stewards are the same as the last race and it’s very clear on which side of the fence they are sitting.

This is interesting, Lewis getting support from the co drivers who agreed to talk, on Max’s attempted mugging of Lewis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59361848

 

[Hugo Rune]

Let me guess…absolutely nothing will happen, the Stewards are the same as the last race and it’s very clear on which side of the fence they are sitting.

This is interesting, Lewis getting support from the co drivers who agreed to talk, on Max’s attempted mugging of Lewis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59361848

“The other drivers who spoke on the topic pretty much all agreed with Hamilton.”

Those other drivers must be bias Hamilton fan boys. They shouldn’t be allowed in F1 if they are so blatantly fans of another driver. They should all be sacked and replaced by ‘balanced’ drivers who are unbiased.

- In other news, I suspect Max will lose a particular lap from qualifying rather than any grid places (not sure what lap his transgression was though).

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Err, that Max Verstappen is Dutch and not a gent and drives a car with an Austrian license and sponsored by a Swiss energy drink.
Based in England maybe but not really a thoroughbred British team are they.
Now if you croaked on about Williams and George Russell or McClaren and Lando Norris as much as you do a Dutchman then you would have a valid point.
You need a 50/50 flag in your Avatar.

I am not a Max fan.....I have said this....I am an F1 fan who wants to see two preferably 3 teams who actually stand a chance of winning races, Red bull have closed that gap.

I am Landos and mcLarens no1 fan.

Perhaps you should read what I write, and not read into what you think I think?