[Politics] Extinction Rebellion protester grounds plane at London City...

[Green Cross Code Man]

Given our (understandable) focus on Brexit, this kind of action helps to highlight the real issue our generation faces.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Why selfish, more like selfless, he ain't getting paid and is making a personal sacrifice to expose a threat to mankind. Can't really compare with the drones at Gatwick that effected over 100,000 people causing 100's of flights to be cancelled. that's just a little silly.

You could argue flying is a privilege of rich westerners, not a right...

He's a total moron in my opinion, delaying people temporarily, who flew anyway, for absolutely no personal benefit at all. Just a sad man with time on his hands and nothing better to do. What a waste of life. I hope he gets a nice, significant, fine.

You can make the comparison with the Gatwick drones wankers, because it's deliberate disruption to flights. Selfless acts.

It's not just rich Westerners who are flying, even I did it earlier this year. I get away once a year if I'm lucky, it's good for anyone to get out of their country for a while. It's an option, and why shouldn't people fly without any sense of guilt for having done so.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Bit torn on this is one.

One side of me says, FFS I've got a business meeting on Dublin, who is this t*sser ruining my day?

The other says, you know what, this guy is doing what I would never be prepared to do. He's getting a criminal record to highlight the desperate state of our climate, there's nothing in it for him at all. We all need to wake up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQiTHRrJKAE

Haha, are you for real?

What a hypocrite that you are worried about the climate but fecking it up on a business jolly.

They have a lovely lot of plastic tents too I noticed, they are just a bunch of activists that love being wa**ers as they are smacked out of their paranoid heads on drugs.

 

[Brovion]

Protest in towns and cities, fair enough. Gain as much attention to the cause as possible - also fair enough.

Disrupting a relatively small number of people intending to fly is the behaviour of an utter selfish wanker. It's not for me, this bloke. No better than people who flew drones in order to stop people flying to or from Gatwick. They don't have the right to disrupt people's lives.

I'm probably the opposite. Stopping the traffic in, say, Bromley High Street does nothing. It is just an excuse for a few crusties to have a bit of a jolly and feel good about themselves. Closing down airports can make a real difference, so fair play to them.

Sorry, I do have a bit of a jaundiced opinion of street protests and demonstrations as I went on loads in my youth for various causes, from anti-apartheid/ANL marches to joining the pickets at Wapping. None of them made a fart of difference - but they were all good fun. All I did really was generate some overtime cash for the police. Indeed when you think that I marched to keep coal mines open and nuclear power plants shut you could say I was on the wrong side of history at least some of the time..

 

[highflyer]

I'd have thought someone with your Profile Name would have wanted planes to be in the air !!

Nah. I don't fly with an engine.

(Though I do sometimes. Hypocrite. Burn me!)

 

[Ernest]

What is wrong with a naked MASSIVE protest

 

[nicko31]

He's a total moron in my opinion, delaying people temporarily, who flew anyway, for absolutely no personal benefit at all. Just a sad man with time on his hands and nothing better to do. What a waste of life. I hope he gets a nice, significant, fine.

You can make the comparison with the Gatwick drones wankers, because it's deliberate disruption to flights. Selfless acts.

It's not just rich Westerners who are flying, even I did it earlier this year. I get away once a year if I'm lucky, it's good for anyone to get out of their country for a while. It's an option, and why shouldn't people fly without any sense of guilt for having done so.

You sound surprised that someone would do something for no personal benefit, some people do actually do stuff not for their own personal enrichment.

 

[bluenitsuj]

The plane should have taken off. That would show him

 

[KZNSeagull]

Gaining publicity to highlight an extremely serious issue is a noble endeavour (like Greta Thunberg), but they are not doing themselves any favours by disrupting ordinary peoples lives and spreading false, scaremongering information. On the one hand they want governments to listen to the experts and do something about it, but on the other they are spreading false information that none of the experts have said.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

You sound surprised that someone would do something for no personal benefit, some people do actually do stuff not for their own personal enrichment.

Not at all, I give up my time frequently - I have nothing more valuable to give. But I wouldn't do it for absolutely no benefit to anyone whatsoever, like standing on a plane and telling people off for flying.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Protest in towns and cities, fair enough. Gain as much attention to the cause as possible - also fair enough.

Disrupting a relatively small number of people intending to fly is the behaviour of an utter selfish wanker. It's not for me, this bloke. No better than people who flew drones in order to stop people flying to or from Gatwick. They don't have the right to disrupt people's lives.

Interestingly the business next door to mine specialise in training the army in all things drones. They are very skeptical about the Gatwick thing and suggested it is unlikely someone could do that undetected. Also was told that nobody actually spotted the elusive drone which I wasn't aware of

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Interestingly the business next door to mine specialise in training the army in all things drones. They are very skeptical about the Gatwick thing and suggested it is unlikely someone could do that undetected. Also was told that nobody actually spotted the elusive drone which I wasn't aware of

Did they have any ideas what was actually happening, then?

 

[Barrow Boy]

Definitely NSFW.

The great George Carlin back in 1992.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Did they have any ideas what was actually happening, then?

Same thoughts as me really that it was a cover for something more sinister possibly terrorist related.

 

[abc]

Someone sat on the roof of a plane now, why not just take off

That genuinely made me laugh out loud!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Did they have any ideas what was actually happening, then?

I think the most plausible reason is a drone was reported. The keystone cops sent up their own drone to investigate. The public spotted this and reported it. The cycle continues. The fact the airport kept closing, police drone went up, found nothing, and re-opened only for a public sighting to close it again happened regularly all through the day supports this theory.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

I am not so sure that some of these are doing it for no person benefit. At the heart of things they will have a feeling of pride and purpose that they may not have in their normal lives. This guy sounded like a condescending **** and as such doesn't have my support. He may have found belonging with this movement and an acceptance he hasn't felt before, I don't know him so can't say for definite but you could argue that there is rarely a truly selfless act...

We definitely need to look at climate change and make sure that my kids and grandkids have a safe planet to live on. But the fact of the matter is that I doubt every single one of these protesters has walked to the protest, they will have flown, driven, got buses etc. It is all about moderation. For all they know the people on that flight were on their first flight for years and truly had to be on it for family emergencies etc. Some may miss seeing a relative for the last time because of delays. It gets publicity but it is a dick move in my view. Lets work on plans for sustainable transport, increase capacity on public transport to remove reliance on single person car journeys.

We need to listen to these guys and get to the heart of the problem but I am not hearing many ideas of what to do being banded about. We have made great strides in terms of renewable energy etc. even since I was a kid but have generations of people happy to purchase cheap crap that will be thrown away, or tents in their hundreds that are left at festivals etc. is not going to help. We also need to understand that we can't change over night no matter how much people wish we could.

I have seen a load of images of some of the proper hippy types at these protests, in their tents high off god knows what. Do they ensure that was ethically sourced? Whilst I accept that will be a small percentage of the people there and be sensationalised by the media/social media you would hope that they would be challenged on that by their own?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I think the most plausible reason is a drone was reported. The keystone cops sent up their own drone to investigate. The public spotted this and reported it. The cycle continues. The fact the airport kept closing, police drone went up, found nothing, and re-opened only for a public sighting to close it again happened regularly all through the day supports this theory.

Exactly. Sussex old bill don’t exactly have a reputation for solving big ticket crime.


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[highflyer]

I am not so sure that some of these are doing it for no person benefit. At the heart of things they will have a feeling of pride and purpose that they may not have in their normal lives. This guy sounded like a condescending **** and as such doesn't have my support. He may have found belonging with this movement and an acceptance he hasn't felt before, I don't know him so can't say for definite but you could argue that there is rarely a truly selfless act...

We definitely need to look at climate change and make sure that my kids and grandkids have a safe planet to live on. But the fact of the matter is that I doubt every single one of these protesters has walked to the protest, they will have flown, driven, got buses etc. It is all about moderation. For all they know the people on that flight were on their first flight for years and truly had to be on it for family emergencies etc. Some may miss seeing a relative for the last time because of delays. It gets publicity but it is a dick move in my view. Lets work on plans for sustainable transport, increase capacity on public transport to remove reliance on single person car journeys.

We need to listen to these guys and get to the heart of the problem but I am not hearing many ideas of what to do being banded about. We have made great strides in terms of renewable energy etc. even since I was a kid but have generations of people happy to purchase cheap crap that will be thrown away, or tents in their hundreds that are left at festivals etc. is not going to help. We also need to understand that we can't change over night no matter how much people wish we could.

I have seen a load of images of some of the proper hippy types at these protests, in their tents high off god knows what. Do they ensure that was ethically sourced? Whilst I accept that will be a small percentage of the people there and be sensationalised by the media/social media you would hope that they would be challenged on that by their own?

Was going to write a response, but then realise the Johnathan Pie rant in post #2 above says everything I want to say and says it better than I could.

 

[highflyer]

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Interesting Andrew Neil 'Extinction Rebellion' interview.

The likes of Andrew Neil and Piers Morgan pick and choose who they want to interview very carefully. They are cowards and bullies.
George Monbiot (who is well informed, articulate, an experienced media operator and understands the science very well) has said he very much wants to be intereveiwed by them...but they won't have him on.