[Albion] Everton vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[hart's shirt]

Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

And a unanimous view on VAR overturning the penalty decision. 3-0. F u Dyche!

 

[Washie]

Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

Hart giving the goalkeepers perspective actually really helped show why positioning is so important for a goalkeeper and sometimes the "obvious" positioning is incorrect.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Not remotely anything like a pen. Calvert-Diver trod on Dunk, then incredibly for an athlete …. dived.

I agree. Total dive but given the new instructions I thought it could have been ignored. It wouldn't be the worst decision given against us by a mile.

 

[Wozza]

Lineker: "It was the way they played in the wide areas..."
Shearer: "Watch the way he (Mitoma) drives through winning the ball...the turnover I thought from Brighton was magnificent..."
Hart: "Brighton provided so many options for the strikers..."

Plenty of praise from Shearer for Albion's width provided from Minteh, Mitoma and Adingra, and the "torrid" time that it caused Everton.

Well done MOTD.

I often think back to the BBC's half-time coverage of Hughton's Albion v Man City FA Cup semi at Wembley (which I saw next-day).

Lineker, scoffing: "Cor, you wouldn't want to play up front in that team, eh Alan?"

We've come a long way, baby.

 

[AmexRuislip]

Hart giving the goalkeepers perspective actually really helped show why positioning is so important for a goalkeeper and sometimes the "obvious" positioning is incorrect.

Head and Shoulders above the rest.

 

[Weststander]

I agree. Total dive but given the new instructions I thought it could have been ignored. It wouldn't be the worst decision given against us by a mile.

WHL on repeat, set an incredibly low bar for incompetence.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

WHL on repeat, set an incredibly low bar on incompetence.

That game still gives me PTSD.

 

[B-right-on]

If you read my posts, you'll see all I actually was saying initially is that VAR didn't implement the idea of "referee's call", despite making a lot of noise this week that this was the new high bar being set this season.

There was contact, because the players touched as both lunged for the ball. I don't think it was a penalty but it wasn't a gigantic error either as the ref was well-positioned and saw two players coming together. Supposedly we were going to live with that this season. It's a very tedious argument now - probably worse than VAR itself!

Really don't understand why you think VAR got it wrong.

The ref blew the whistle for a foul on DCL by Dunk because Mr Ref thought Dunk tripped DCL.

VAR reviewed it and seen that DCL trod on Dunks ankle and then had a fight with gravity (and lost).

So the refs thought, which was Dunk fouled DCL, was wrong.

How is this NOT a clear and obvious error not matter how high this fabled bar is?

 

[Weststander]

That game still gives me PTSD.

So many shocking decisions for the home team there in recent seasons. For example Romero has to commit multiple red card assaults, to get a red card.

 

[dazzer6666]

Just suffered the long trip from Lime Street to Euston near 4 entitled Everton fans who didn't stop spouting crap for the whole journey. Apparently their new stadium is far to small for a start as they have a 30k waiting list apparently.

Still it was a very enjoyable Euston platform to Victoria sing song

It’ll easily be big enough for the Championship

 

[beorhthelm]

I know, as Dunk brought his left foot through. From the referee's angle it probably looked very much like Dunk swept his leg away and if Dunk hadn't made that movement, DCL probably wouldn't have stood on his foot. So, in my opinion, while it may have been an error, it wasn't 'clear and obvious'. Well aware other people will have a different opinion, that's football. As I said earlier it doesn't really square with PGMOL's stance this week on reducing VAR intervention, so I'll just repeat that here and then go to bed. Goodnight. Enjoy the win.

Howard Webb "“What we can do is is really focus on what VAR was always meant for. It was meant for those clear situations that would live large in the memory. It wasn’t meant to re-referee the game on small touches and little contacts and all those things that have created debate and discussion – leave those on the field."

There was contact, the ref saw it differently at the time, 'referee's call' wouldn't have been unreasonable.

reducing doesn't mean no intervention. this is what VAR is supposed to do, see the ref misread the contact and get them to review it. its not a case of minutely assessing who got a touch first or using 8 angles to show a player brushed the other.

 

[nickjhs]

I agree. Total dive but given the new instructions I thought it could have been ignored. It wouldn't be the worst decision given against us by a mile.

Then there would be no point having VAR. This was a clear and obvious error, exactly what VAR was brought in for.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Then there would be no point having VAR. This was a clear and obvious error, exactly what VAR was brought in for.

I get and agree with the logic but didn't think any logic would be applied today. Stockley park has made baffling decisions for years. When the guvner says "Do nothing as the referee's decision is final" I expected the guys on VAR to have a day off.

Luckily.for us, they decided to actually watch it.

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Dyche: "Historically we never get penalties" He used to spout the same line at Burnley too. They probably do get fewer than most. If you play a long ball game and are hardly ever in the penalty area - thats going to happen. It aint rocket science.

 

[GT49er]

If you read my posts, you'll see all I actually was saying initially is that VAR didn't implement the idea of "referee's call", despite making a lot of noise this week that this was the new high bar being set this season.

There was contact, because the players touched as both lunged for the ball. I don't think it was a penalty but it wasn't a gigantic error either as the ref was well-positioned and saw two players coming together. Supposedly we were going to live with that this season. It's a very tedious argument now - probably worse than VAR itself!

You're making the wrong argument here! VAR didn't overturn the referee's decision, as has so often happened in recent years of the disastrous and inept operation of VAR.
They thought the ref. might have got it wrong, so they asked the ref. to have a second look for himself. He did, and saw that his initial instinct was wrong, so rescinded the pen.

That's 'Umpire's call' working to perfection.

 

[B-right-on]

I want to highlight what an utter tool and thug Tarkowski is.

That deliberate knee to the back of Pedro's neck was worth at least a yellow. It was absolutely disgusting from a real tosser of a player.

That he got one a few mins later for his hack at JP, shows that he had malicious intent.

He's up there with Fernandez, Kane and 3/4 of the Chelsea squad, as utter bellends.

 

[Weststander]

You're making the wrong argument here! VAR didn't overturn the referee's decision, as has so often happened in recent years of the disastrous and inept operation of VAR.
They thought the ref. might have got it wrong, so they asked the ref. to have a second look for himself. He did, and saw that his initial instinct was wrong, so rescinded the pen.

That's 'Umpire's call' working to perfection.

I wonder if they should simply shortcut it like rugby union. Instructing Hooper; not a foul by Dunk, no pen, yellow card for Calvert for simulation.

That’d be my preference.

The pitchside TV thing is silly.

No one in rugby union claims refs have been undermined.

 

[nickjhs]

There was contact,

Please provide a screenshot of any contact before he takes the dive. I am betting you cant

 

[trueblue]

You're making the wrong argument here! VAR didn't overturn the referee's decision, as has so often happened in recent years of the disastrous and inept operation of VAR.
They thought the ref. might have got it wrong, so they asked the ref. to have a second look for himself. He did, and saw that his initial instinct was wrong, so rescinded the pen.

That's 'Umpire's call' working to perfection.

That's pretty much how VAR has worked since the second season. In the first season, the pitchside monitor wasn't used. Since then, they've always asked the ref to have another look. "Referee's call" as Howard Webb said he wants it happened in the West Ham game. A lot of people will say it was the wrong outcome but the process tallied with PGMOL's stated approach for the new season.