[Albion] Everton vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[jcdenton08]

It’s worth remembering the guy in the video - Swansman aka Han Solo - went on a drink and drug fuelled antisemitic hate speech campaign which directly got him banned. He posted some truly disturbing and racist stuff.

Since being allowed to return, he’s managed to avoid making further racist/antisemitic posts though, although he is admittedly still drinking and using drugs.

It’s worth remembering that “Swanny” never directly apologised for his hate speech, and only rejoined after finding The Shed End, Chelsea’s forum, wouldn’t engage with him and give him the attention he craves.

A YouTube channel is the next obvious step, in his own words, to “mind control the whole world”.

This is not a well man.

It’s hard for me to get behind him, or see others affectionately praise “Swanny”, because in my eyes it is openly supporting a user here who was previously banned for some serious hate speech. Therefore, those who support him implicitly support those views.

 

[trueblue]

Why don’t they just say that?

A cynic might say to give the false impression of a great move, airbrushing out that it was flawed.

I can't remember if the flag eventually went up at the time. If not I suppose they can justify its inclusion but pretty stupid really as at least one player was visibly miles offside. It would never have survived a VAR check if it had gone in.

 

[Triggaaar]

Veltman didn't fit great into Potters football (at least in some tactics) and even worse into De Zerbis way - too far up the pitch and too much chasing wingers from behind. His strengths is not the crossing or overlapping or tiki-taka play, his strength is to shut down that right wing and putting the easy pass to someone who does the attacking/creation parts of the game better.

But there have been games where he's excelled. As a more general point, saying you think this style will suit him more if fair, but he has had some peaches.

 

[Triggaaar]

Some golden nuggets of truth there - be good not to require deep audio mining through the verbosity to get to them though.

That's rich

 

[Coldeanseagull]

It’s worth remembering the guy in the video - Swansman aka Han Solo - went on a drink and drug fuelled antisemitic hate speech campaign which directly got him banned. He posted some truly disturbing and racist stuff.

Since being allowed to return, he’s managed to avoid making further racist/antisemitic posts though, although he is admittedly still drinking and using drugs.

It’s worth remembering that “Swanny” never directly apologised for his hate speech, and only rejoined after finding The Shed End, Chelsea’s forum, wouldn’t engage with him and give him the attention he craves.

A YouTube channel is the next obvious step, in his own words, to “mind control the whole world”.

This is not a well man.

It’s hard for me to get behind him, or see others affectionately praise “Swanny”, because in my eyes it is openly supporting a user here who was previously banned for some serious hate speech. Therefore, those who support him implicitly support those views.

Just ignore the thread then, no need to get the soap box out

 

[Triggaaar]

It’s worth remembering the guy in the video - Swansman aka Han Solo - went on a drink and drug fuelled antisemitic hate speech campaign which directly got him banned. He posted some truly disturbing and racist stuff.

So why don't the mods ban this account too?

 

[jcdenton08]

So why don't the mods ban this account too?

You’ll have to ask them, but I think him agreeing to only post in football threads is the agreement.

 

[jcdenton08]

Just ignore the thread then, no need to get the soap box out

This is the Premier League thread, why should I ignore it? I already ignored the other thread about him, but this thread isn’t about him

 

[cjd]

You’ll have to ask them, but I think him agreeing to only post in football threads is the agreement.

This is a football thread isn't it ?

 

[jcdenton08]

This is a football thread isn't it ?

Yes, about the football matches. Then someone posted a link to his new YouTube video, which I responded to.

 

[dazzer6666]

This is a football thread isn't it ?

It was

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

It’s worth remembering that “Swanny” never directly apologised for his hate speech, and only rejoined after finding The Shed End, Chelsea’s forum, wouldn’t engage with him and give him the attention he craves.

I don't really want to further this conversation, but he did apologise for those posts around the time the Han Solo account was widely recognised as the same person.

I'm not interested in discussing the merits of that apology or any other aspect of this, I'm sure if anybody feels strongly enough they can find it themselves.

 

[Stato]

David Squires

David Squires on … heroes and villains of the Premier League’s opening weekend

Our cartoonist on the big names headlining the top flight’s return, from Jamie Vardy to a bloke in the crowd at Ipswich

www.theguardian.com

 

[pigmanovich]

Represented in Shearer's best XI of the week by Mitoma, JPVH, and Fabi:

 

[GT49er]

So why don't the mods ban this account too?

Because 'this account' hasn't done anything wrong?

There are - or were - other posters on NSC whose views were anathema to the mainstream of NSC, and there's probably a few who keep their views to themselves because they know that to express them on NSC would invite an absolute shit-storm. We may regularly be chatting happily with them on Albion matters, who knows? They're hardly likely to have 'Fully paid up fascist' under their avatar, are they?

 

[Triggaaar]

Because 'this account' hasn't done anything wrong?

If someone was really objectionable though (I didn't read the thread/s) then I'd expect them to be banned, not them be asked to simply open a new account.

 

[London Irish]

It’s worth remembering the guy in the video - Swansman aka Han Solo - went on a drink and drug fuelled antisemitic hate speech campaign which directly got him banned. He posted some truly disturbing and racist stuff.

Since being allowed to return, he’s managed to avoid making further racist/antisemitic posts though, although he is admittedly still drinking and using drugs.

It’s worth remembering that “Swanny” never directly apologised for his hate speech, and only rejoined after finding The Shed End, Chelsea’s forum, wouldn’t engage with him and give him the attention he craves.

A YouTube channel is the next obvious step, in his own words, to “mind control the whole world”.

This is not a well man.

It’s hard for me to get behind him, or see others affectionately praise “Swanny”, because in my eyes it is openly supporting a user here who was previously banned for some serious hate speech. Therefore, those who support him implicitly support those views.

Frankly, you come across as a bit creepy here, develop another hobby other than cyber stalking

 

[GT49er]

If someone was really objectionable though (I didn't read the thread/s) then I'd expect them to be banned, not them be asked to simply open a new account.

"Simply" opening a new account, no, but with an apology and a restriction to posting about football on football threads only, that's different (and it doesn't imply support for his views, either by the mods, or by those of us who sometimes engage with him on Albion matters).

 

[Triggaaar]

Do you think it would be better if you planned what you were going to say? You seemed to ramble a bit.

I see the second video is more of the same. I get the impression you're not taking this seriously @Han Solo ?

 

[Bakero]

If someone was really objectionable though (I didn't read the thread/s) then I'd expect them to be banned, not them be asked to simply open a new account.

He spouted some conspiracy theories and antisemitic tropes if I recall correctly. Rather than wind his neck in he continued to argue his case and got a ban. Tbh I've read way worse from others. In fact just yesterday a poster went on more excessive rant and was given a timeout by a mod.