[Albion] Evan Ferguson **Loaned to West Ham 03/02/2025**

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That's because you are a SCIENTIST

And also because like me you can be belligerent

But it seems those wanting facts are quick to create their own conspiracy theories

Conveniently fueled by a friend of their mum's,
whose sister's boyfriend has a mate who knows someone who works at the club, and.....

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This thread is getting a bit weird now, and for once it’s not @Han Solo

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This thread is getting a bit weird now, and for once it’s not @Han Solo

If you think it's weird this may be because you have unwittingly been given drugs,
by Fergy's mum.

 

[The Optimist]

Some complain that the club are vague on injuries to our players.

The club once made a statement that Ferguson missed one game because of a temperature and 18 months later there’s massive discussions about what the illness was etc.

I wonder why the club keep information close to their chest?

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

If you think it's weird this may be because you have unwittingly been given drugs,
by Fergy's mum.

Ahh, so his mum had Glandular fever then?

 

[Hiheidi]

From what you know about glandular fever, does it seem likely to you that a player suffering from it will play a game on the 16th, miss out on fever on the 21st and then be in the starting eleven on the 24th? Does that seem realistic to you?

I've no idea what was wrong with him, but (after reports of being unwell on September 21) it was very clear that he shouldn't have been starting the games on September 24 and 30. He could only manage half a game, and struggled.

Isn't that one of the criticisms of RDZ, that he played players when not fully fit / recovered, further hampering their future performances? I'm sure someone on here said that the club still don't think Evan is fit to play 90 but he disagrees, so maybe it was him pushing RDZ to start.

We'll never know, but it looks like he should have had more time to recover from the illness which saw him show up to the stadium for AEK Athens and then get sent home.

 

[Han Solo]

Some complain that the club are vague on injuries to our players.

The club once made a statement that Ferguson missed one game because of a temperature and 18 months later there’s massive discussions about what the illness was etc.

I wonder why the club keep information close to their chest?

Indeed...
But lets hold our horses a little bit.

According to this post below, Evan Ferguson's agent David Berber has been talking about Evan Fergusons alleged illness. Maybe the quotes from Berber - I assue @ROSM are going to post them - could end speculation..?

Yes, yes that's right. It was just a little cold that his own agent has lied about to make it sound so much worse whilst breaking his ankle just like the original Goalkeeper in escape to victory so Hutch could play instead

 

[Han Solo]

I've no idea what was wrong with him, but (after reports of being unwell) it was very clear that he shouldn't have been starting the games on September 24 and 30. He could only manage half a game, and struggled. Isn't that one of the criticisms of RDZ, that he played players when not fully fit / recovered, further hampering their future performances. I'm sure someone on here said that the club still don't think Evan is fit to play 90 but he disagrees, so maybe it was him pushing RDZ to start. We'll never know, but it looks like he should have had more time to recover from the illness which saw him show up to the stadium for AEK Athens and then get sent home.

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So if his illness was the reason for his performance in the poor first half against Bournemouth and the 6-1-loss against Villa... what were the others suffering from? Given that it is all of a sudden impossible to play bad without being sick or injured?

And in Evans two very poor performances before the Newcastle game, a sub appearance against Wolves and a start in the loss against West Ham, what was the illness then? Was it the glandular fever coming around and then just skipping out on the Newcastle game?

When he went goalless from 8 of the 9 final games of the season before that (22/23), what was kind of disease did he have then?

Maybe - just maybe - Evan Ferguson is a young, talented striker who had a few high profile games in which he scored lots of goals. Maybe - just maybe - this caused expectations to rise to unreal levels, to the point where people simply can not accept that Evan isn't as good as his early days indicated, so they have to invent shit to keep the dream alive about us having a ready-made world class striker worth £100m.

 

[levs]

So if his illness was the reason for his performance in the poor first half against Bournemouth and the 6-1-loss against Villa... what were the others suffering from? Given that it is all of a sudden impossible to play bad without being sick or injured?

And in Evans two very poor performances before the Newcastle game, a sub appearance against Wolves and a start in the loss against West Ham, what was the illness then? Was it the glandular fever coming around and then just skipping out on the Newcastle game?

When he went goalless from 8 of the 9 final games of the season before that (22/23), what was kind of disease did he have then?

Maybe - just maybe - Evan Ferguson is a young, talented striker who had a few high profile games in which he scored lots of goals. Maybe - just maybe - this caused expectations to rise to unreal levels, to the point where people simply can not accept that Evan isn't as good as his early days indicated, so they have to invent shit to keep the dream alive about us having a ready-made world class striker worth £100m.

I think Evan will prove you wrong about his abilities. I have no idea about what has affected his form whether that's illness, injury, mental health or whatever. I don't really understand why you're so irate about people discussing possibilities where almost everyone has said they don't know and it's just speculation. It's a discussion forum at the end of the day.

But I think I've seen enough of his ability when at the top of his game to believe he will be a top level striker one day and he's young enough to have plenty of time to get there. I hope that's in a Brighton shirt but if it's not I will be watching with interest and wishing him well.

 

[ROSM]

Indeed...
But lets hold our horses a little bit.

According to this post below, Evan Ferguson's agent David Berber has been talking about Evan Fergusons alleged illness. Maybe the quotes from Berber - I assue @ROSM are going to post them - could end speculation..?

You arent differentiating between sarcasm and fact here.

I have mentioned previously that reference to a virus was made by a representative of his on a business dealings. I also said that glandular fever had been mentioned on here before.

My post re escape to victory was an exaggerated sarcastic extension in response to an exaggerated extension in the other direction.

It's easier and less controversial than saying he isn't performing for potter's west ham because Potter is a crap manager

 

[Flounce]

You arent differentiating between sarcasm and fact here.

I have mentioned previously that reference to a virus was made by a representative of his on a business dealings. I also said that glandular fever had been mentioned on here before.

My post re escape to victory was an exaggerated sarcastic extension in response to an exaggerated extension in the other direction.

It's easier and less controversial than saying he isn't performing for potter's west ham because Potter is a crap manager

Chapeau

 

[Justice]

Last February DeZerbi talks about his mental health condition and trying to help him. Virus’s weren’t ever mentioned officially.

 

[Han Solo]

I think Evan will prove you wrong about his abilities. I have no idea about what has affected his form whether that's illness, injury, mental health or whatever. I don't really understand why you're so irate about people discussing possibilities where almost everyone has said they don't know and it's just speculation. It's a discussion forum at the end of the day.

But I think I've seen enough of his ability when at the top of his game to believe he will be a top level striker one day and he's young enough to have plenty of time to get there. I hope that's in a Brighton shirt but if it's not I will be watching with interest and wishing him well.

I don't have a problem with people discussing possibilities. I also don't have a problem doing it myself, in my case saying that glandular fever isn't a possibility.

I'm thinking: lets get to the f***ing bottom of this so I don't have to read the glandular fever-bullshit for the rest of his career.

You arent differentiating between sarcasm and fact here.

I have mentioned previously that reference to a virus was made by a representative of his on a business dealings. I also said that glandular fever had been mentioned on here before.

My post re escape to victory was an exaggerated sarcastic extension in response to an exaggerated extension in the other direction.

It's easier and less controversial than saying he isn't performing for potter's west ham because Potter is a crap manager

No, you claimed things and now you're backtracking it and calling it "sarcasm" because you can't back up anything of what you've claimed so far.

You're right with the last sentence though: it is indeed easier to blame a made up bout of glandular fever than it is blaming a manager he's had for 2 months for his 18 months of poor performances.

 

[ROSM]

I don't have a problem with people discussing possibilities. I also don't have a problem doing it myself, in my case saying that glandular fever isn't a possibility.

I'm thinking: lets get to the f***ing bottom of this so I don't have to read the glandular fever-bullshit for the rest of his career.


No, you claimed things and now you're backtracking it and calling it "sarcasm" because you can't back up anything of what you've claimed so far.

You're right with the last sentence though: it is indeed easier to blame a made up bout of glandular fever than it is blaming a manager he's had for 2 months for his 18 months of poor performances.

I haven't claimed. Nor am I back tracking.

Now, have a sit down and a chamomile tea.

 

[Han Solo]

I haven't claimed. Nor am I back tracking.

Now, have a sit down and a chamomile tea.

But you have. You have claimed that the club talked about viruses, that his agent did, and that he had glandular fever.

He was a teenager/early 20yr old recovering from glandular fever and with two lower limb (foot/ankle) injuries.

I don't need chamomile tea. You, however, need to stop pulling stuff out of your arse

Last February DeZerbi talks about his mental health condition and trying to help him. Virus’s weren’t ever mentioned officially.

Wonder how that went. Its as if a taxidermist would tell you "your dog looks unhappy, let me take care of it".

 

[levs]

I don't have a problem with people discussing possibilities. I also don't have a problem doing it myself, in my case saying that glandular fever isn't a possibility.

I'm thinking: lets get to the f***ing bottom of this so I don't have to read the glandular fever-bullshit for the rest of his career.

How on earth are you going to get to bottom of it Sherlock? You're in Sweden with very limited information just like the rest of us. If you don't like reading speculation, don't read it simple as that.

I don't like reading your incessant desperation to be right all the time, and I'd like to not read it but you plague every thread with it even when it's not about football and you have been banned for your contributions you cant help yourself

 

[ROSM]

But you have. You have claimed that the club talked about viruses, that his agent did, and that he had glandular fever.


I don't need chamomile tea. You, however, need to stop pulling stuff out of your arse



Wonder how that went. Its as if a taxidermist would tell you "your dog looks unhappy, let me take care of it".

Now I understand why people put you on ignore.

His representative did mention a virus. I won't disclose what the meeting was about where it was mentioned. He also mentioned 2 lower limb injuries. Or perhaps you'd like to question that too?

I referenced that others on here had mentioned glandular fever.

The club did mention an illness that caused a high temperature that as we have discussed is most likely caused by some sort of infection (bacterial or viral). Yes a cold is a virus as is covid, flu, etc etc etc

Now if you can't speak politely (pulling stuff out of my arse? What a great turn of phrase you have). Then I'm done.

 

[Han Solo]

How on earth are you going to get to bottom of it Sherlock? You're in Sweden with very limited information just like the rest of us. If you don't like reading speculation, don't read it simple as that.

I don't like reading your incessant desperation to be right all the time, and I'd like to not read it but you plague every thread with it even when it's not about football and you have been banned for your contributions you cant help yourself

Through simple logics, I was hoping.

We know the nature of glandular fever and how it affects people, we know when Evan Ferguson participated in elite athletics, and thereabout we should be able to rule out that he had glandular fever, bubonic plague or a recent amputation.

Since this - by most sources impossible - combination of playing top level football whilst suffering from glandular fever isn't enough to rule it out in the eyes of some, I have asked people to provide ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE that Fergie had glandular fever, which they so far haven't done.

As for being right, yes thats something I try to be. Some people really love to be wrong and constantly repeat wrong things as right, but I'm indeed more of a "want to be right" guy. You're going to have to live with that, bit like how I'm living (and fighting) with reading "he had glandular fever" every time Evan Ferguson doesn't score a hattrick in a football game.

 

[Han Solo]

Now I understand why people put you on ignore.

Yeah, sometimes its because people get infuriated when their hearsay is met with reasonable counter-arguments.

 

[levs]

Through simple logics, I was hoping.

We know the nature of glandular fever and how it affects people, we know when Evan Ferguson participated in elite athletics, and thereabout we should be able to rule out that he had glandular fever, bubonic plague or a recent amputation.

Since this - by most sources impossible - combination of playing top level football whilst suffering from glandular fever isn't enough to rule it out in the eyes of some, I have asked people to provide ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE that Fergie had glandular fever, which they so far haven't done.

As for being right, yes thats something I try to be. Some people really love to be wrong and constantly repeat wrong things as right, but I'm indeed more of a "want to be right" guy. You're going to have to live with that, bit like how I'm living (and fighting) with reading "he had glandular fever" every time Evan Ferguson doesn't score a hattrick in a football game.

You talk in absolutes when all of the facts are not available, I'm not even arguing for whether or not he had glandular fever, because I have no idea. Do I think it's a possible explanation for a dip in form? Maybe, but I think it's unlikely, do I care if others think it is likely? No

I don't have to live your need to be proved right, as I can put you ignore or wait until you inevitably let loose with some more abhorrent views about jewish people or something equally offensive and get a permanent ban.