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Euro 2012 Draw - 5pm today



Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
That may be the case, but without trying to pass off too much of a sweeping generalisation here, the Russian team will feel almost like they're at home in this tournament. Most of them will be used to the places they'll be playing at, and they'll more than likely bring the most travelling fans (which can't be a bad thing). Also, given that their season will have only just started in June, most of their players will feel fresher as well.

Good point.

England might have a good qualifying record for international tournaments, but they've not got further than the last eight since Euro '96 and have hardly set the tournament alight in anything they've qualified for since then, most notably the last two World Cup campaigns.

No, the point was how we compared to Russia. We have clearly been far, far better than Russia in tournaments in the last 20 years.

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Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,278
My dummy draw at my desk has produced:

Group A - Spain, Germany, Croatia, Czech Republic
Group B - Ukraine, Italy, Portugal, Rep Of Ireland
Group C - Poland, England, Greece, France
Group D - Holland, Russia, Sweden, Denmark.

There seems nothing that can keep England and Poland apart. I'd actually be happy with that group.
 


brakespear

Doctor Worm
Feb 24, 2009
12,326
Sleeping on the roof
I'd go for Poland, Greece and Denmark, although you can bung in the Netherlands if you want to make things more interesting.

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del strangefish

Booooo!
Nov 1, 2008
1,635
Back of North Stand
Spain, Portugal, France or Italy please!
All or nothing early, rather than a 0-0 Polish or Ukrainian scrape through to be embarassed again in the quarters!
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,888
I actually hope we get a tough group as an easy group at the last world cup didn't really materialise that way. Just want to avoid the RoI
I know what you're saying. I remember that Sun headline when the WC group draw was made: E.A.S.Y. (England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yanks). Yeah, that sure panned out ok. Put us in the Group of Death where we haven't got a chance and we might surprise a few people, and at the very worst we'll simply meet people's expectations by not progressing. Give us one of the 'easy' groups where we'll be expected to progress and watch us put in our usual 'rabbit caught in headlights' performances.
 




Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,600
London
You mean Sweden? Who England beat the last time they played one another?

I knew someone would pull me up on that. Before that I think it we last beat them in black and white.
 












Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,794
hassocks
Having Spain in the group stage wouldnt be a bad thing if we got two average teams, means we couldnt meet them till the final if we got that far.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,518
Worthing
It is turning into the eurovision song contest.:yawn:

get on with it.
 


Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,031
Spain will win! :glare:

(although teams are maybe, just maybe starting to understand how to beat them)
 




Jul 20, 2003
20,706
If the draw puts Spain, Italy, Greece and ROI together will it be the group of debt?
 














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