[Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

[daveinplzen]

I would be genuinely interested in what benefits, practical and conceptual, that leave voters believe Brexit will bring to the UK. However, the reason these threads just go round in a circle is because Leave voters have never, not once, ever been able to cite a single benefit of us leaving the EU. Not one that stands up to even the mildest scrutiny. And I guarantee none of them will ever give one. That's why these threads are largely binfests. And because I sometimes call someone a prick.

I've asked several times. They have no answer apparently.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I would be genuinely interested in what benefits, practical and conceptual, that leave voters believe Brexit will bring to the UK. However, the reason these threads just go round in a circle is because Leave voters have never, not once, ever been able to cite a single benefit of us leaving the EU. Not one that stands up to even the mildest scrutiny. And I guarantee none of them will ever give one. That's why these threads are largely binfests. And because I sometimes call someone a prick.

Are you still droning on like a spoilt little child? Why don't you go join Dave in Prague or wherever the hell he is now? Perhaps they have different ideas about democracy. Crying like a bi*ch won't change the vote.

 

[The Clamp]

I've asked several times. They have no answer apparently.

What answer could they give I suppose?

" we get to make our own decisions"

As someone on The News Quiz pointed out, most leave voter's wives buy their socks for them.

Also, they were given the chance to make a decision 3 years ago and look at the bloody mess they made of it

 

[The Clamp]

Are you still droning on like a spoilt little child? Why don't you go join Dave in Prague or wherever the hell he is now? Perhaps they have different ideas about democracy. Crying like a bi*ch won't change the vote.

Nurse! He's out of bed again.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Nurse! He's out of bed again.

Tell me something seriously, whilst wiping that foam away from your gob. Are you totally against democracy?

 

[The Clamp]

Tell me something seriously, whilst wiping that foam away from your gob. Are you totally against democracy?

Ask me any question you like and I will answer it sincerely. With one caveat; you drop the insults, anger and vitriol and show me that you can debate in a sensible fashion. If you can't manage that, don't bother.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Ask me any question you like and I will answer it sincerely. With one caveat; you drop the insults, anger and vitriol and show me that you can debate in a sensible fashion. If you can't manage that, don't bother.

So you won't answer, therefore your insincerity shines through like the gobshite you are.

 

[The Clamp]

So you won't answer, therefore your insincerity shines through like the gobshite you are.

I have told you I'll answer if you ask without framing the question in insults. Sound fair?

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Tell me something seriously, whilst wiping that foam away from your gob. Are you totally against democracy?

No insult there gobshite.

I have told you I'll answer if you ask without framing the question in insults. Sound fair?

 

[GT49er]

Obviously.

We agree on that, at least.

It's not about the EU putting obstacles in the way, or me being 'paranoid' about what they might do, which is just a typical knee-jerk remainer interpretation and completely wrong. What would be disastrous in my view would be to revoke Article 50, essentially ceding that the UK can then never leave what has for many years, been a dead duck.

And when that becomes more apparent as time goes on, how exactly would you then propose we leave? You don't, ever think we should leave the EU?

And if the powers that be in the EU decided that it had turned out to be impossible for us to leave, they would have carte blanche to impose on us whatever they wanted. Opt outs? No, you can't leave, so why would we let you have/continue to have opt-outs?

Answer is: we wouldn't keep our hard won opt-outs, not in the longer term. We would have scored a massive own goal, and surrendered ourselves to Brussels for ever. Remainers will, of course, blindly deny this until the cows come home (aka when we sign up to greater unification).

 

[Sussex Nomad]

And if the powers that be in the EU decided that it had turned out to be impossible for us to leave, they would have carte blanche to impose on us whatever they wanted. Opt outs? No, you can't leave, so why would we let you have/continue to have opt-outs?

Answer is: we wouldn't keep our hard won opt-outs, not in the longer term. We would have scored a massive own goal, and surrendered ourselves to Brussels for ever. Remainers will, of course, blindly deny this until the cows come home (aka when we sign up to greater unification).

Totally, if we stay now we'd have to agree Eurozone and everything we worked hard to stay out of.

 

[The Clamp]

No insult there gobshite.

Well, get back to me when you've calmed down/grown up.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Totally, if we stay now we'd have to agree Eurozone and everything we worked hard to stay out of.

Just the one question

Is stupidity infectious?

Because I think the two of you may be stuck in an infinite stupidity loop quoting one another's increasingly stupid posts.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Well, get back to me when you've calmed down/grown up.

I love you commie types, hate democracy and find any reason why not to answer what you basically can't. You types will die out one day, like the dinosaur, when everyone has had enough of your disingenuous bollocks.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Just the one question

Is stupidity infectious?

Please, feel free to expand on your question and why you come to that conclusion, I may, then, be able to answer you. If you are just looking for soundbites and being 'cool'... nice one.

 

[albion68]

What answer could they give I suppose?

" we get to make our own decisions"

As someone on The News Quiz pointed out, most leave voter's wives buy their socks for them.

Also, they were given the chance to make a decision 3 years ago and look at the bloody mess they made of it

Don`t get that people voted in the referendum thats all they have been able to do apart from marches etc ,how could they make a mess of something when they have not been involved in what goes on in Parliament ?

 

[The Clamp]

I love you commie types, hate democracy and find any reason why not to answer what you basically can't. You types will die out one day, like the dinosaur, when everyone has had enough of your disingenuous bollocks.

I think you'll find if a meteorite hits the earth, we all die.

Anyway, I digress.
Can you not just ask a question without the angry rhetoric and insults? I don't indulge people who attempt to shout me down or swear at me. It's not avoidance, it's being an adult.
Ask anything you like, just don't try to bully me into answering you with insults and anger. It'll butter no parsnips round here.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I think you'll find if a meteorite hits the earth, we all die.

Anyway, I digress.
Can you not just ask a question without the angry rhetoric and insults? I don't indulge people who attempt to shout me down or swear at me. It's not avoidance, it's being an adult.
Ask anything you like, just don't try to bully me into answering you with insults and anger. It'll butter no parsnips round here.

No you just swerve towards sarcasm and think you're clever, goes both ways me old son.
Trying to score points with your peers on NSC doesn't make you big or clever.

 

[The Clamp]

No you just swerve towards sarcasm and think you're clever, goes both ways me old son.

Oh well, no skin off my nose.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Oh well, no skin off my nose.

Tell me something seriously, whilst wiping that foam away from your gob. Are you totally against democracy?

No insult there so answer the question as you so passionately wish to.