[Drinking] English sparkling wine

[Wrong-Direction]

Having never drunk piss, I cannot compare but bow to your superior experience.

But please share why you drank piss and if it was yours.
Does the taste vary depending on whose piss it is?

PS I love wine

When I was 18 me and my mates dared each other to drink our own piss on a train..

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[Seagrrl]

I love our local Sussex sparkling wines but my favourite is still Camel Valley, also available from Waitrose.

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[dazzer6666]

Don't need to. I understand the denomination system, and used to work in the wine industry.

Yes you can. You've been able to for well over 100 years. Look it up.

I wasn’t aware so did look it up........

https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/loophole-california-champagne-legal/

 

[The Oldman]

So HT, what was the outcome.?

 

[Triggaaar]

Don't need to. I understand the denomination system, and used to work in the wine industry.

So you're too arrogant to believe there's something related to wine that you don't know?

 

[Triggaaar]

I wasn’t aware so did look it up........

https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/loophole-california-champagne-legal/

There we go, thank you. Although he doesn't need to click on that link as he's worked in the wine industry don't you know.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

I believe a famous Champagne house is growing grapes somewhere in Kent.
Climate now the same as Champagne, don't know when the first bottles will be ready.
The problem with English sparkling wine is the name Champagne.
I think people seem to forget that Champagne is only sparkling wine,but for any celebration or present people will buy champagne and not English sparkling, which is about the same price as decent champagne but, in my opinion as good, if not better than French NV, but I don't think England will ever reach the heights of Dom Perignon or Krug.

 

[Triggaaar]

According to the French the grapes that grow champagne must be grown in Champagne, for it to be given that name.

I believe a famous Champagne house is growing grapes somewhere in Kent.

Will they be allowed to call it Champagne? Bit pointless if they can't.

Climate now the same as Champagne

I've read it's better here now.

I think people seem to forget that Champagne is only sparkling wine,but for any celebration or present people will buy champagne and not English sparkling, which is about the same price as decent champagne but, in my opinion as good, if not better than French NV

I stopped using Champagne (for celebration) a long time ago. I've found English sparkling wine to be better value for money. I'm not referring to the really expensive ones, as I wouldn't spend that much.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Will they be allowed to call it Champagne? Bit pointless if they can't.

I've read it's better here now.
I stopped using Champagne (for celebration) a long time ago. I've found English sparkling wine to be better value for money. I'm not referring to the really expensive ones, as I wouldn't spend that much.

I wouldn't have thought so, I believe the thing about 'Champagne' is true, bit like Cornish Pasties.

 

[Triggaaar]

I wouldn't have thought so, I believe the thing about 'Champagne' is true, bit like Cornish Pasties.

So a famous Champagne house is going to start selling English sparkling wine?

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

So is the cheaper English Sparkling better than Cava or Prosecco?
Certainly our Expensive sparkling is at least as good as French NV.
Actually one thing I do know (having been on a tour of English vineyards in Cornwall and Sussex) is that they bought in Champagne experts from France to help them along a bit, in fact a lot.

 

[Triggaaar]

So is the cheaper English Sparkling better than Cava or Prosecco?

Prosecco tastes a lot different. Like is an ale better than a larger?

Actually one thing I do know (having been on a tour of English vineyards in Cornwall and Sussex) is that they bought in Champagne experts from France to help them along a bit, in fact a lot.

It would be silly not to. All industries employ experts from abroad to help.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

So a famous Champagne house is going to start selling English sparkling wine?

Apparently, the conditions in the south east and the soil is that good now for wine grapes, hence the success of Sussex wine, Camel Valley down here and many others dotted around.
Whatever happened to Lamberhurst vineyards, they have been around for a very long time, I know they produced still white that was almost identical to German wine like Liebfraumilch, but don't know if they produce sparkling.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I ended up buying these from Waitrose. Thanks everyone who contributed to this thread.


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[Triggaaar]

Let us know what he thinks of them (and what you think, if you get to try them).

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You can also get Californian Champagne.

No you can't

Yes you can. You've been able to for well over 100 years. Look it up.

Don't need to. I understand the denomination system, and used to work in the wine industry.

So you're too arrogant to believe there's something related to wine that you don't know?

Arguing about champagne. Modern football eh?

 

[wellquickwoody]

Arguing about champagne. Modern football eh?

Just for info, Moet & Chandon (who I personally do not rate at all) have massive vineyards here in Victoria. They produce massive amounts of bubbles which are lapped up by many, sparkling wine is seriously popular here. I don’t think France produces sparkling wine any better than anyone else unless you start talking about the expensive staff. And when you start doing that the game changes, as said before, I don’t rate Moët, but that is based on the NV stuff.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Just about for pop the cork. Happy Fridat!

 

[Bakero]

Just about for pop the cork. Happy Fridat!

Enjoy!

 

[Diablo]

Just for info, Moet & Chandon (who I personally do not rate at all) have massive vineyards here in Victoria. They produce massive amounts of bubbles which are lapped up by many, sparkling wine is seriously popular here. I don’t think France produces sparkling wine any better than anyone else unless you start talking about the expensive staff. And when you start doing that the game changes, as said before, I don’t rate Moët, but that is based on the NV stuff.

Over there isn`t it called just "Chandon"?