English football and Gus Poyet.

[Deleted member 18477]

We missed Wilshire. At least he's learning to play the game well at arsenal. Just a shame he's not being made into a winner at the same time! Let's hope the OX can also learn the possession way! Gutted he didn't come on 2nite! In fact he should have started ahead of young!

 

[GreersElbow]

This is why we need to get the academy up and running whilst Gus is still here, so it has his philosophy stamped on it.

Precisely my thinking, some people think it's boring. If I'm honest, I love it. We could be a bit more technical, more dribbling skills like Messi or Ronaldo and utilising that into play. Let's be honest, Messi and Ronaldo are a defender's nightmare. We need to develop this on the ground, '3 R'S' Receive, retain and release. I think we could play more attractive football and still be deadly. But one can only dream.

 

[Deleted member 18477]

Gus plays the right way. I wanna be entertained and look down my nose at clubs with hit and hope percentages managers. Long live Gus! On the top of the bus!

After 2nite I couldn't agree more! I will be so patient next season with our build up play! It IS the right way!

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

England won't win anything for at least 25 years. English football is more bothered about the Premiership being "the best in the world" than anything else, and most of you muggy c*unts fall for it. It's not the best in the world and neither the England national team will be. Might be harsh but most of you are part of the problem. f*** the way English football is run, we'll never win f*** all. Might be hard to take but it's the truth. The domestic game in England is part of the problem. BUT ENGLAND NEVER LEARNS. TOO MUCH MONEY, TOO MUCH SHIT FOOTBALL, TOO MUCH SKY PROPAGANDA AND TOO MANY PLASTIC FANS READY TO SWALLOW WHATEVER THE MEDIA SAYS. WE WILL NOT WIN ANYTHING.

 

[bn1&bn3 Albion]

The FA need to limit the amount of money which can be spent on foreign players, this would force clubs to focus more on bringing through local talent.

 

[Rugrat]

But even at Brighton a section of our support have some fixation about buying a big lump stand stand up front to "give another option".You can lead some people to water but you cant make them drink.

I think (hope) that view's changing

 

[W.C.]

The 'Spain are boring' camp make me laugh. Particularly the English ones. They can't appreciate the skill and talent it takes to knock it around as they do. You only have to look at England barely stringing 3 passes together to see how good Spain are. They make it look so easy.

 

[El Presidente]

The 'Spain are boring' camp make me laugh. Particularly the English ones. They can't appreciate the skill and talent it takes to knock it around as they do. You only have to look at England barely stringing 3 passes together to see how good Spain are. They make it look so easy.

The frightening thing is the number of 'Gus is boring' fans we have who live in the Dark Ages.

 

[Icy Gull]

Anyone else find themselves screaming at Hart to stop hoofing the ball and pass or throw it to an England player?

 

[itszamora]

Anyone else find themselves screaming at Hart to stop hoofing the ball and pass or throw it to an England player?

Yes, but he was obviously playing to orders to lump it up to Carroll. City like to play it out from the back, probably because most of their players aren't English.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

No amount of money will stop teams like Manure (their manager in particular who has never ever helped the England cause), ruining their players in the course of a season so they come to a Euro or World Cup completely knackered.
-Rooney was embarrasing for the two matches in which he played. Unfit and blowing like a 60 Capstan a day welder after 20 minutes.
-Welbeck scored a great goal but did FA else
-Ashley Young must still be at Heathrow waiting to fly out

Disappointed for Roy Hodgson more than anyone, as I think he is a genuinely decent bloke. He needs support form the PL managers though and I really doubt that many will give it .


JFC for England!

TNBA

TTF

 

[El Presidente]

Nobody forces multimillionaire professional athletes such as Rooney to smoke.

It's a sign of the contempt he has for his profession and the cossetted lifestyle that he has that he chooses to do so.

The only person who would have made any difference last night was Paul Scholes.

 

[c0lz]

So much wrong with the England game from trying to play the off side trap and failing and the passing was just awful for prem players, the long ball ffs 95 percent went to a Italian player and when carroll did win it it went straight to a Italian player, to watch this sht was boring and frustrating, please please the Gus way has to be the way forward.

 

[Bwian]

Yes, but he was obviously playing to orders to lump it up to Carroll. City like to play it out from the back, probably because most of their players aren't English.

The only flaw in the lump it to Carroll theory is that Hart did it throughout the tournament-even when Carroll was on the bench. At least Carroll managed to bring the ball down when required. Now more than ever The Albion are much more important to me-England players don't deserve the support they get and as each tournament let down follows the previous ones my interest in the national side wanes.

 

[Simster]

Anyone with a brain can see the issue after every single tournament: we can't retain or pass the ball. This is why Hart kicked long every single time he received the ball. There is nothing wrong with mixing it up, the ability to pass needs to be throughout the team. John Terry and Ashley Cole had decent tournaments really, yet neither are trusted to take the ball off the keeper, retain possession and help England move forward with the ball at their feet - possibly because our midfield is so poor at this aspect of the game.

We are a second tier footballing nation with Russia, Sweden and Mexico who happen to have a first tier domestic league. Until we start coaching our players properly, that isn't going to change.

 

[Simster]

England players don't deserve the support they get and as each tournament let down follows the previous ones my interest in the national side wanes.

I can't agree with that. They weren't backed fervently until they had exceeded expectations. Don't forget, it was debatable that we'd get out of the group at all. It's just that you can't polish a turd.

 

[W.C.]

Anyone with a brain can see the issue after every single tournament: we can't retain or pass the ball. This is why Hart kicked long every single time he received the ball. There is nothing wrong with mixing it up, the ability to pass needs to be throughout the team. John Terry and Ashley Cole had decent tournaments really, yet neither are trusted to take the ball off the keeper, retain possession and help England move forward with the ball at their feet - possibly because our midfield is so poor at this aspect of the game.

We are a second tier footballing nation with Russia, Sweden and Mexico who happen to have a first tier domestic league. Until we start coaching our players properly, that isn't going to change.

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[Bwian]

I can't agree with that. They weren't backed fervently until they had exceeded expectations. Don't forget, it was debatable that we'd get out of the group at all. It's just that you can't polish a turd.

I'm not talking backing them fervently as in previous tournaments. The England players (with a couple of exceptions) seem to believe all the hype surrounding them thanks to the publicity machine that is the premier league. Their Billy Big Bollocks attitude is why I think they are undeserving of our support-perfectly illustrated when Ashley Young stepped of the plane wearing those ridiculous blue headphones. Show some respect to the country you are arriving in and take the f***ing things off you dickhead-you should have been focused on the task ahead, not showing off your expensive toys.

 

[Rugrat]

I'm not talking backing them fervently as in previous tournaments. The England players (with a couple of exceptions) seem to believe all the hype surrounding them thanks to the publicity machine that is the premier league. Their Billy Big Bollocks attitude is why I think they are undeserving of our support-perfectly illustrated when Ashley Young stepped of the plane wearing those ridiculous blue headphones. Show some respect to the country you are arriving in and take the f***ing things off you dickhead-you should have been focused on the task ahead, not showing off your expensive toys.

That's professional football at this level, for the most part. There are exceptions but it's not the 50's anymore and these fellas are pampered, and Sky and the rest of the popular media have cultivated this attitude. Doesn't take away from the natural skill of any of them just their motivation to apply it to the last drop

 

[pork pie]

After tonight that has to be the way to go ?

Poyet plays more like Spain. Loads of boring passes that do little or nothing, and as boring as hell to watch. The way forward is to play like we did between the fifth and twenty fifth minutes. It was a lack of players capable of playing to the required standard that was the problem, not the style of play. Just as it probably is at Brighton, when we try to play as Poyet wants, without the quality players to execute his plans.

Any system needs the correct quality of players to make it work. I am looking forward to Germany playing to their entertaining style.