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[Cricket] England vs Australia Third Ashes Test - Leeds 22nd-26th August 2019



Eeyore

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Perfect, thanks.

So it's another record, then? [emoji41][emoji23]

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Given the first innings total there may be a few more obscure ones.

I thought Leach may have some records as a bespectacled spinner. But Daniel Vettori may have his grasp firmly on some of those.
 




Greg Bobkin

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Given the first innings total there may be a few more obscure ones.

I thought Leach may have some records as a bespectacled spinner. But Daniel Vettori may have his grasp firmly on some of those.

'England's win is the first instance of a team winning a Test after being bowled out for less than 70 in their first innings in 131 years of Test cricket. The last time this happened was in the 1880s.'

More here: https://indianexpress.com/article/s...-run-chase-3rd-ashes-test-ben-stokes-5936223/
 




Triggaaar

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Given the first innings total there may be a few more obscure ones.
Have there been many games where a team won with a last wicket partnership (so 4th innings, 11th man) exceeding the team's first innings total (the 2nd innings)?

After the 9th wicket fell, Stokes scored more runs than our first innings. He scored 74 off 42 balls.
 


Eeyore

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Have there been many games where a team won with a last wicket partnership (so 4th innings, 11th man) exceeding the team's first innings total (the 2nd innings)?

After the 9th wicket fell, Stokes scored more runs than our first innings. He scored 74 off 42 balls.

Unlikely. The highest 10th wicket chase was earlier this year. It was only 78. (Sri Lanka v South Africa)
 




Gwylan

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Have there been many games where a team won with a last wicket partnership (so 4th innings, 11th man) exceeding the team's first innings total (the 2nd innings)?

After the 9th wicket fell, Stokes scored more runs than our first innings. He scored 74 off 42 balls.

On Sunday Andrew Samson said it had happened once before but I can't find any record of it (I don't think it was a test match though)
 


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On Sunday Andrew Samson said it had happened once before but I can't find any record of it (I don't think it was a test match though)

Can't have been a Test. I can only find two cases of first innings totals lower than 74 with the team winning a match.
 






Bold Seagull

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Have there been many games where a team won with a last wicket partnership (so 4th innings, 11th man) exceeding the team's first innings total (the 2nd innings)?

After the 9th wicket fell, Stokes scored more runs than our first innings. He scored 74 off 42 balls.

edit: oh Jesus, you meant the last wicket partnership total itself exceeding the first innings total....That is a tough one to find out...


So scrub this one......This year, 1st Test, Sri Lanka tour of South Africa at Durban, Feb 13-16 2019

South Africa
235 & 259

Sri Lanka
191 & 304/9 (85.3 ov)
Sri Lanka won by 1 wicket

(this was a 78 run last wicket partnership to win it, but obviously falls short of the 191 first innings total).
 


Triggaaar

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edit: oh Jesus, you meant the last wicket partnership total itself exceeding the first innings total....
Yes, but also with it being 4th innings (not 3rd & 1st), and also it being a winning partnership. Not sure it's been done before.
 


Bodian

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Yes, but also with it being 4th innings (not 3rd & 1st), and also it being a winning partnership. Not sure it's been done before.

Not just that, but one player in the last wicket partnership scoring more in that partnership than the entire first innings total. I'd be amazed if this has been done before.
 




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knocky1

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:glare: The Ashes doesn't only refer to an urn, it also refers to the test cricket series we're playing. Losing that series would be losing the Ashes.

Bollocks it does. The team with the Ashes keep them if they draw the next series. We have to win to get them back. Simple Ashes history.

Your ignorance is probably due to lack of 24 hour BBC coverage of cricket for the last 50 years.
 


Gwylan

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Bollocks it does. The team with the Ashes keep them if they draw the next series. We have to win to get them back. Simple Ashes history.

Your ignorance is probably due to lack of 24 hour BBC coverage of cricket for the last 50 years.

No, Trig is right. The actual urn stays at Lord's - but the series is also referred to as the Ashes

Never argue with a pedant :)
 




Triggaaar

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The team with the Ashes keep them if they draw the next series. We have to win to get them back. Simple Ashes history.
I know all of that.

Your ignorance is probably due to lack of 24 hour BBC coverage of cricket for the last 50 years.
So you think that the test series currently being played between England and Australia is not called the Ashes?
 


knocky1

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No, Trig is right. The actual urn stays at Lord's - but the series is also referred to as the Ashes

Never argue with a pedant :)

Yawn. 2-2 or 1-1 and the plastic replica urn stays with Australia. He’s not right. I’m the pedant.
 


Bodian

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I know.
Likewise.

I know wiki isn't always the most accurate, but I'm quite surprised to see that there are only 14 tests won by one wicket. The previous lowest first innings total was SA in 1905-06 with 91. Last (match-winning) partnership was 9.

It's also amusing to see that of those 14, 6 were lost by Australia. Who also lost 3 out of the four closest wins by runs (1, 2 and 3 runs). And also are the only team to lose after enforcing the follow-on: three times!
 


Triggaaar

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Yawn. 2-2 or 1-1 and the plastic replica urn stays with Australia.
We know. But the test series is also called the Ashes. We can win, lose or draw that.

He’s not right.
I'm always right :lol:
I’m the pedant.
You're an insult to the genuine pretenders on this board.
 






Triggaaar

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I know wiki isn't always the most accurate, but I'm quite surprised to see that there are only 14 tests won by one wicket.
:eek: That's ridiculous.

It's also amusing to see that of those 14, 6 were lost by Australia.
:lol:
Who also lost 3 out of the four closest wins by runs (1, 2 and 3 runs).
:lol:
And also are the only team to lose after enforcing the follow-on: three times!
:lol:

Seeing the Aussies lose is like seeing Palace lose. Cheating ****s.
 


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