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[Misc] Electric Cars



Springal

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Given the terrible depreciation on EVs at the moment - there’s some fantastic deals on leasing the Mercedes EQC at the moment £370 a month for a £60k+ car and trouble free motoring for a couple of years

Mercedes-Benz EQC​

EQC 400 300kW AMG Line Premium 80kWh 5dr Auto​


 




Springal

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Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Given the terrible depreciation on EVs at the moment - there’s some fantastic deals on leasing the Mercedes EQC at the moment

Mercedes-Benz EQC​

EQC 400 300kW AMG Line Premium 80kWh 5dr Auto​


They always do you on the mileage 5000 pa is crap
 


Springal

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They always do you on the mileage 5000 pa is crap
Even 8000 is very strong. You’d easily save £750 a year factoring in an Octopus rate
 


chickens

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They always do you on the mileage 5000 pa is crap

While accepting that there are use cases where this doesn’t apply, I tend to think that if you do less than 5000 miles a year in a car, you don’t actually need the car.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Leasing EV's seem a good idea through a company as salary sacrifice and only 2% car tax.

As a private individual they're a expensive option
 




Springal

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Leasing EV's seem a good idea through a company as salary sacrifice and only 2% car tax.

As a private individual they're a expensive option
Generally yes, but that deal excels ICE ‘deals’ in current market
 




schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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Mid mid mid Sussex
Given the terrible depreciation on EVs at the moment - there’s some fantastic deals on leasing the Mercedes EQC at the moment £370 a month for a £60k+ car and trouble free motoring for a couple of years

Mercedes-Benz EQC​

EQC 400 300kW AMG Line Premium 80kWh 5dr Auto​


You didn't mention the £3,374 upfront, making it really £500 / month.

It's still a relatively good deal, though.
 


The Grockle

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Sep 26, 2008
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Dorset
I don't know how others are finding costs with regards to home charging but with a smart tariff 270 miles (80%) charge cost us on average under £10 in electricity.

If you were doing 500 miles per week I suspect the saving on fuel would go quite some way to offset the additional outlay.

We lease through a salary sacrifice deal which costs us around £300 a month, for 65k car with all the bells and whistles.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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You didn't mention the £3,374 upfront, making it really £500 / month.

It's still a relatively good deal, though.
£1.20 / mile plus charging, not what I'd call cheap motoring
 




Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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I don't know how others are finding costs with regards to home charging but with a smart tariff 270 miles (80%) charge cost us on average under £10 in electricity.

If you were doing 500 miles per week I suspect the saving on fuel would go quite some way to offset the additional outlay.

We lease through a salary sacrifice deal which costs us around £300 a month, for 65k car with all the bells and whistles.
If you did 500 miles a week that would put 26k on the clock taking you 21k over the 5000 limit (on the mentioned deal)
 




swindonseagull

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Aug 6, 2003
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Swindon, but used to be Manila
I don't know how others are finding costs with regards to home charging but with a smart tariff 270 miles (80%) charge cost us on average under £10 in electricity.

If you were doing 500 miles per week I suspect the saving on fuel would go quite some way to offset the additional outlay.

We lease through a salary sacrifice deal which costs us around £300 a month, for 65k car with all the bells and whistles.
From 30 - 100% on Octopus Intelligent (7.5p per KWh ) it costs between £3-£4 to charge. although at Pease Pottage on matchday same charge @68p is £18
 




Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
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From 30 - 100% on Octopus Intelligent (7.5p per KWh ) it costs between £3-£4 to charge. although at Pease Pottage on matchday same charge @68p is £18
Doesn't octopus have an increased tariff re non car charge use? So unless you use more electricity for car journeys than your house consumption you lose out? Or have I been mislead?
 




The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,756
Dorset
If you did 500 miles a week that would put 26k on the clock taking you 21k over the 5000 limit (on the mentioned deal)

I wasnt really referencing that particular deal just suggesting that some of the higher costs associated with leasing/purchasing is probably offset by the much cheaper running costs.

In our experience its something like 10 x cheaper in electricity cost compared to petrol for the same miles.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
I wasnt really referencing that particular deal just suggesting that some of the higher costs associated with leasing/purchasing is probably offset by the much cheaper running costs.

In our experience its something like 10 x cheaper in electricity cost compared to petrol for the same miles.
I’m not sure I could be arsed with it all it annoys me waiting for my Dewalt batteries to charge 🤣
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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While accepting that there are use cases where this doesn’t apply, I tend to think that if you do less than 5000 miles a year in a car, you don’t actually need the car.
I remember talking to someone in NYC who spent less money on Ubers a year - including going to/from work every day - than it cost them to run a car...
 


chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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I’ve lived with my Nissan Leaf for a while now, and once I realised you could still have the radio/air con on while charging (for some reason it took me a fortnight before I actually tried it) it hasn’t been much of a chore to charge. I would absolutely get something with a higher range next time around as it’s the first gen original Leaf and is only capable of 80 miles between charges. With the mileage I do I’m charging daily, but a charge only takes 20-25 minutes to fill the battery. It’s definitely costing less than the diesel used to, despite not having charging facilities at home.

It’s well specced, with factory fitted Bose stereo and Subwoofer, comfortable leather seats, plenty of rear legroom and boot space. Acceleration is good, handling typical of Japanese cars in that the steering feels light but is quite responsive.

I’ve been around the country a bit and never had any difficulty finding chargers, though I stop with some reserve on the gauge when I’m going to charge points I haven’t used before.

I wouldn’t go back to the combustion engine, but I will absolutely be ensuring my next one claims a range of 240+ miles so I can be reasonably confident of getting 200 miles of range out of it.

If I was charging at home I’d be laughing costs wise, as it is I’m making savings but they’re not huge. I reckon I’ve gone from a tank of diesel every eight days at around £95 to a charge cost of between £8 and £11 daily dependent on how much is left in the battery when I plug it in. So cheaper than diesel, but not massively so. If I could charge from home I’d be insane to not be driving electric as charging costs would be more than halved.

And who wants to make Newcastle richer?
 


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