Ed Miliband

[CheeseRolls]

I know life long Labour supporters who won't have a word said against any Labour leader, but can't stand Ed Milliband. Seen as a totally uninspiring wet blanket, and awful speaker.

His toothless performance in the Scottish debate, brought his glaring inadequacies to the fore. It took Brown, Cameron, Alexander, Murphy,to fight back, I thought with passion, great speeches and some charisma.

The army of Labour supporters in Scotland laid the ground for a great campaign by Milliband, but instead we got the nerd. This time next year, he could be our PM and voice/face of the UK to the rest of the World. Frightening.

Phew glad we missed Chaos with Ed Milliband

 

[Weststander]

Phew glad we missed Chaos with Ed Milliband

He handed the Tories a victory on a silver platter.

The unelectable wrong Milliband was elected leader.

The rest is history.

 

[Beach Hut]

He handed the Tories a victory on a silver platter.

The unelectable wrong Milliband was elected leader.

The rest is history.

One of a long line of labour faux pas

 

[Weststander]

One of a long line of labour faux pas

'Other people said it was the act of a moron, and I confess to having been one of the morons.'

Former Foreign Secretary Dame Margaret Beckett on nominating Jeremy Corbyn for a Labour leadership contest.

 

[Surf's Up]

He handed the Tories a victory on a silver platter.

The unelectable wrong Milliband was elected leader.

The rest is history.

This, unfortunately, is correct.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The country would be in a far better place if "Chaos" Miliband had won. I regret my vote for Cameron in that election.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I know life long Labour supporters who won't have a word said against any Labour leader, but can't stand Ed Milliband. Seen as a totally uninspiring wet blanket, and awful speaker.

His toothless performance in the Scottish debate, brought his glaring inadequacies to the fore. It took Brown, Cameron, Alexander, Murphy,to fight back, I thought with passion, great speeches and some charisma.

The army of Labour supporters in Scotland laid the ground for a great campaign by Milliband, but instead we got the nerd. This time next year, he could be our PM and voice/face of the UK to the rest of the World. Frightening.

How times have apparently changed. I don't know any labour supporters (myself included) who have much time for any labour leader.

The most popular labour leader of all was popular only among non-voting pop festival-attending teenagers (and their middle aged impersonators) and members of the SWP.

Starmer, for example, is extremely dull.

Perhaps that's what the country needs at the moment.

Heaven protect me from another charismatic 'winner' who can get 'fukallxit' done ....

 

[keaton]

no they really are not

simply pointing out people across the spectrum think Milliband is a bellend

it takes a special kind of numptie to make tories and left wing Labour to be in agreeent

It does an luckily all three Tory leaders since this post have managed it

 

[keaton]

He handed the Tories a victory on a silver platter.

The unelectable wrong Milliband was elected leader.

The rest is history.

As much as blaming Labour for everything seems like the only sensible thing currently, can you explain how he is unelectable and someone with no political beliefs, sense of personal responsibility and a liar is electable?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

He handed the Tories a victory on a silver platter.

The unelectable wrong Milliband was elected leader.

The rest is history.

I don't understand politics much, but it seems like EVERY Labour leader is the wrong one or 'unelectable'. There seems to be a pattern over time for each one too: right man for the job - promising the bring about change - certain area of the party turns against them - starts to lose support - wrong man for the job, need a new guy.

Milliband, Corbyn and Starmer all suffered the same fate. I don't get it.

Starmer now seems widely criticised (for all sorts of reasons) after a positive start. Maybe it's the party members who have a problem or maybe people do - as mad as it sounds - just prefer Tory rule?

I would favour a cross-party government, but that will never happen.

 

[darkwolf666]

I love this deflection, at a time when the sole focus should be on the incumbent Prime Minister, 2 threads are belatedly bounced, I can only assume as deflection to divert attention from what is going on.

Alternatively, has the Boris Johnson show now become so boring and inevitable people need something else to focus on like two currently irrelevant members of the Labour Party?

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's not my fault I voted for this completely predictable shitshow, it's some politician from another party who has never been anywhere near Government that made me do it

Really ?

Under 60 seconds, that's better



I was worried you had found something else to do

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Re reading this was interesting. Where have Buzzer and Tooting Gill gone? They are missed.

Don't massively disagree with what I said at the time. Poundland Ed wasn't the most talented politician in his family and Labour have paid the price albeit I think I voted for him when push came to shove. That said, I was wrong about Cameron. He turned into a massive Tory Wanker and he is one of main architects of today's shit show.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I would favour a cross-party government, but that will never happen.

One of the better governments of my lifetime was the Lib dem / Tory one albeit the consequences for the Libs were disastrous. The fact they didn't agree created fairer government. It would be a better place if we had more of it, successful workplaces always have a diverse range of opinions. Except Westminster of course.

 

[Stat Brother]

I don't understand politics much, but it seems like EVERY Labour leader is the wrong one or 'unelectable'. There seems to be a pattern over time for each one too: right man for the job - promising the bring about change - certain area of the party turns against them - starts to lose support - wrong man for the job, need a new guy.

Milliband, Corbyn and Starmer all suffered the same fate. I don't get it.

Starmer now seems widely criticised (for all sorts of reasons) after a positive start. Maybe it's the party members who have a problem or maybe people do - as mad as it sounds - just prefer Tory rule?

I would favour a cross-party government, but that will never happen.

There's something in the psyche of the staunch Labour Party.

They play up to, or fall into the trap of, their media persona every single time, making it so easy for any rumdum with a blue rosette to run roughshod all over them.

Tory-Lite Blair being the exception to the rule.

 

[Weststander]

As much as blaming Labour for everything seems like the only sensible thing currently, can you explain how he is unelectable and someone with no political beliefs, sense of personal responsibility and a liar is electable?

Because Corbyn (and Burgon & Co) left Labour exposed to ridicule after their Brexit/Remain shenanigans.

Johnson just had to mop up all the Brexit votes and some loyal Remain Tories.

Whilst Sturgeon had a field day in Scotland against Labour.

It was the lesser of two evils to middle England. Always note that nsc left wing postings are unrepresentative of English political feelings, what the person on the street thinks in Peterborough, Redditch, Teeside, Wealden, Thanet, Mansfield and Lincoln.


Imho Burnham with a clear EU stance and mixed economy socio-economic policies would’ve fared far better.

 

[usernamed]

Oh look, this thread has bounced today. I wonder why?

 

[Weststander]

One of the better governments of my lifetime was the Lib dem / Tory one albeit the consequences for the Libs were disastrous. The fact they didn't agree created fairer government. It would be a better place if we had more of it, successful workplaces always have a diverse range of opinions. Except Westminster of course.

Excellent post.

 

[keaton]

Because Corbyn (and Burgon & Co) left Labour exposed to ridicule after their Brexit/Remain shenanigans.

Johnson just had to mop up all the Brexit votes and some loyal Remain Tories.

Whilst Sturgeon had a field day in Scotland against Labour.

It was the lesser of two evils to middle England. Always note that nsc left wing postings are unrepresentative of English political feelings, what the person on the street thinks in Peterborough, Redditch, Teeside, Wealden, Thanet, Mansfield and Lincoln.


Imho Burnham with a clear EU stance and mixed economy socio-economic policies would’ve fared far better.

We're talking about Ed Milliband?

My point is unelectable doesn't mean anything. By most definitions Johnson and Trump are "unelectable" but they still won elections.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Oh look, this thread has bounced today. I wonder why?

Is it Ed's birthday ?