Early Local Election results - UKIP smashing it

[TomandJerry]

With 127 councils declared and 34 to go, Labour looks like it's coming out on top, but UKIP has also been a big success story. Labour has made a net gain of 221 seats, and UKIP has gained 136 seats. The Lib Dems, on the other hand, have made a net loss of 209 seats, and the Conservatives are down 178 seats.

 

[The Spanish]

With 127 councils declared and 34 to go, Labour looks like it's coming out on top, but UKIP has also been a big success story. Labour has made a net gain of 221 seats, and UKIP has gained 136 seats. The Lib Dems, on the other hand, have made a net loss of 209 seats, and the Conservatives are down 178 seats.

so what is that as a percentage +/- for each party?

 

[Baldseagull]

I did not vote yesterday, I am a life long Tory who has realised since becoming disabled how their policies have damaged the poor and the sick for decades. I now see myself as Liberal, sadly right now the Liberal Party have become Tories so right now for me there is no true place for my vote.
My worry is so many people who voted UKIP did it for one reason, the immigration issue and I wonder if that will be the main issue they deal with week in week out in council chambers across the country or is it going to be reducing the tax burden on the rich and reducing the welfare coverage for the poor and needy.
Voting for UKIP to hear their arguments on immigration is one thing but the result is over 100 new council seats across the country making decisions on everything but immigration!

You should have voted UKIP , or chosen a candidate on his or her own merits, and not the party they belong to.
No time at all will be spent discussing immigration, Europe or Tax breaks for the rich at council meetings, if UKIP are all really parochial little Englanders as they are sometimes accused, they will be excellent Councillors.

Liberals have not become Tories, they have entered a coalition with the Tories because the country badly needed a majority government to sort out the financial problems. The leadership of the Liberal party did this in the full knowledge that it would be damaging to their party, but would be best for the country, I respect that a lot. They were able to play the Tories off against Labour and actually got a lot more of their policy included than they should have, given the proportion of the vote they had, not particularly in keeping with their Proportional Representation views.

Personally I think they have done bloody well in tempering the Tories, and I personally would not mind another term of the two in coalition, Tories being brutally realistic, and Liberals softening the blow as much as possible.
I don't know how I will vote at the general yet, but I will vote.

 

[TomandJerry]

so what is that as a percentage +/- for each party?

No idea

 

[TomandJerry]

For those interested in numbers, here are some figures that put those national share figures that I quoted earlier (see 3.42pm) in context.

They show that:

• Labour are ahead of their performance last year, and in 2010, but they have not done as well as they are doing in national polls.

• The Tories are doing worse than in 2010, but better than they were doing last year.

• The Lib Dems are doing worse than in 2010, worse than they are doing in the polls, but better than last year.

• Ukip are doing significantly worse than last year, but better than in the polls.

 

[Nibble]

If anyone actually thinks that UKIP are going to be a good thing for the average man on the Clapham omnibus they are in for quite a kick in the balls. If you think he is going to get us out of Europe you can add a side order of a slap in the face. The UKIP MEP's are on way too much of a gravy train for that to be allowed.. Even if they weren't a catastrophe made up of crashing bigots and people incapable of keeping their prejudiced horseshit to themselves, It's a blazer and cravat outfit run by a privately educated city banker with a history of bragging about rinsing tax payer's money. What part of all this are people not getting?

 

[Baldseagull]

Deservedly so after selling their souls at the last general election and not delivering a ****ing thing they promised. Clegg is a spineless shitbag.

I can't be arsed to give you the list, but if you are just looking for one thing, you don't pay tax on your first £10,000 of earnings (, which is one of the things delivered in this parliament that the Liberals promised, but do remember they are not in control, they just have hold of Camerons elbow.

 

[TomandJerry]

The BNP has held its only council seat in the NW in Pendle.

 

[Baldseagull]

If anyone actually thinks that UKIP are going to be a good thing for the average man on the Clapham omnibus they are in for quite a kick in the balls. If you think he is going to get us out of Europe you can add a side order of a slap in the face. The UKIP MEP's are on way too much of a gravy train for that to be allowed.. Even if they weren't a catastrophe made up of crashing bigots and people incapable of keeping their prejudiced horseshit to themselves, It's a blazer and cravat outfit run by a privately educated city banker with a history of bragging about rinsing tax payer's money. What part of all this are people not getting?

Define Bigot for me please Nibble.

 

[Nibble]

Define Bigot for me please Nibble.

Zzzzzzzz

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

If anyone actually thinks that UKIP are going to be a good thing for the average man on the Clapham omnibus they are in for quite a kick in the balls. If you think he is going to get us out of Europe you can add a side order of a slap in the face. The UKIP MEP's are on way too much of a gravy train for that to be allowed.. Even if they weren't a catastrophe made up of crashing bigots and people incapable of keeping their prejudiced horseshit to themselves, It's a blazer and cravat outfit run by a privately educated city banker with a history of bragging about rinsing tax payer's money. What part of all this are people not getting?

Clearly a lot of people aren't getting it at all. Which either means a lot of people are very stupid, or it's not quite as simple as your post makes out...

 

[Nibble]

Clearly a lot of people aren't getting it at all. Which either means a lot of people are very stupid, or it's not quite as simple as your post makes out...

Wait, you may be on to something there. Yes, the people who voted UKIP must know something the rest of us don't.

 

[WhingForPresident]

I can't be arsed to give you the list, but if you are just looking for one thing, you don't pay tax on your first £10,000 of earnings (, which is one of the things delivered in this parliament that the Liberals promised, but do remember they are not in control, they just have hold of Camerons elbow.

True, but they gained a lot of last minute momentum with their pledge to keep tuition fees down, which earned them my vote last time around as I was just off to uni and wasn't particularly drawn in by anything from Con/Lab.

I would never even consider voting for them again and I'm definitely not alone from my generation. Their councillor for my area had the audacity to tell me not to vote UKIP as they wouldn't follow through with their promises yesterday, I laughed my ****ing arse off.

Clegg also got pretty much massacred by Farage in their debates. What a weak man to have in charge of a political party.

 

[worthingseagull123]

Sadly got green party in my worthing ward. Thankfully only 1 seat on council so cant do same damage as the greens in Brighton. Green candidate seem very dislikable when canvassing.

 

[TomandJerry]

Lambeth is now a Lib Dem zone, according to the Labour leader there

 

[TomandJerry]

The Tories have lost West Lancashire council to Labour.

 

[TomandJerry]

Lib Dems hold South Lakeland, their only NW council with the loss of one seat.

 

[TomandJerry]

Portsmouth South MP Mike Hancock, who is accused of sexual misconduct towards a female constituent, loses his seat on the city council to UKIP.

 

[Baldseagull]

True, but they gained a lot of last minute momentum with their pledge to keep tuition fees down, which earned them my vote last time around as I was just off to uni and wasn't particularly drawn in by anything from Con/Lab.

I would never even consider voting for them again and I'm definitely not alone. Their councillor for my area had the audacity to tell me not to vote UKIP as they wouldn't follow through with their promises yesterday, I laughed my ****ing arse off.

Clegg also got pretty much massacred by Farage in their debates. What a weak man to have in charge of a political party.

Clegg was indeed utterly inept in the debates with Farage, and the tuition fees promise was a massive mistake, but a bigger mistake would have been to insist on it's inclusion as part of the coalition agreement, as it was totally unaffordable at the time, neither Labour or Conservatives could have taken it on and we would have a minority government or a re run of the election, neither of which would have been very good for the country, we needed a government.
The truth is that if you still think that tuition fees is an important issue, the Libs have the strongest desire to reduce or get rid of them. Personally I think unless we go back to only the top 10% going on to University, it will have to be funded by those attending at least in part.

 

[martyn20]

You should have voted UKIP , or chosen a candidate on his or her own merits, and not the party they belong to.
No time at all will be spent discussing immigration, Europe or Tax breaks for the rich at council meetings, if UKIP are all really parochial little Englanders as they are sometimes accused, they will be excellent Councillors.

Liberals have not become Tories, they have entered a coalition with the Tories because the country badly needed a majority government to sort out the financial problems. The leadership of the Liberal party did this in the full knowledge that it would be damaging to their party, but would be best for the country, I respect that a lot. They were able to play the Tories off against Labour and actually got a lot more of their policy included than they should have, given the proportion of the vote they had, not particularly in keeping with their Proportional Representation views.

Personally I think they have done bloody well in tempering the Tories, and I personally would not mind another term of the two in coalition, Tories being brutally realistic, and Liberals softening the blow as much as possible.
I don't know how I will vote at the general yet, but I will vote.

Councillors who want to cut welfare and cut tax for the rich, how does that help the man in the street who seem to have voted for them in their thousands?