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[Football] Drinking in sight of the pitch - a survey

Do you agree the law should change to decriminalise drinking in sight of a football pitch?

  • I agree.

    Votes: 58 18.2%
  • I agree provided the bars are closed during the game

    Votes: 89 27.9%
  • Not fussed either way

    Votes: 28 8.8%
  • I disagree. I don't like the idea of flying beer after a goal

    Votes: 99 31.0%
  • I disagree. The law is satisfactory as it is

    Votes: 45 14.1%

  • Total voters
    319
  • Poll closed .


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
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I would like to be able to take my pint into the ground and sup at my leisure rather than be forced to neck it before hand
But the downsides far outweigh that positive.

Who is forcing you to neck a pint?
Do you mean before the match or half time or both?
 




Fat Boy Fat

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Aug 21, 2020
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Too much TV coverage of beer throwing at World cups and Euros that has now made it the thing to do.

Cant imagine anything worse than getting drenched when we score in the 87th min when already 3 down to Burnley or someone !

It's OK, if we're 3 down after 87 minutes there will be plenty of space between you and the beer thrower!
 


CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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It's a legal matter at present because you can be prosecuted and receive a criminal record if convicted.

We don't know yet if 'most people are against it'. We do know we - as a football crowd and as a society - have changed in the 36 years since the law was brought in. Enough to not criminalise people who drink a glass of wine while being able to see a football pitch on matchday? Well, that's what the survey is for.

It's part of a wholesale look at legislation on football. It may well be that the majority of football fans are against decriminalisation, in which case, she won't take it any further. This is being done in partnership with the FA, the PL, the FL, the FSA and many other bodies.

Thanks I think this has been useful.

I am in favour in principle of changing the law, why is this a legal matter?
In favour of maintaining the status quo in stadia, with some small relaxations but bars closed during the match, as articulated by many on here.
Not in favour of making this a part of a broader political football campaign. The attempted Euro break away and ownership issues at all levels, tells you exactly where football reform needs to focus its attention.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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I think it is fair to say that is pretty finely balanced...
 

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amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,837
Fine as it is. Bad enough getting up for people 10mins before and after half time. Does though amuse me the couple of times I have been in 1901 how they pull the blinds down
 




Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Isn't everyone looking at it from their own point of view? That is a) I want to drink whenever and wherever I like and b) I don't want some pratt throwing their beer over me.

I struggle to believe that those voting for a rule change are doing so for the benefit of the club finances in Leagues One and Two!

You're correct, that's why I'm saying that people should think about the benefits of changing the law rather than just focus on whether they want it to happen at the Amex.

As per my first post on this thread: I don't think it should be a legal matter and clubs should be allowed to choose. I wouldn't be in favour of this being implemented at Brighton, but I can see there might be benefits that don't affect me.

It might benefit corporate sales if the prawn sandwich brigade in the 1901 or the boxes could drink a prosecco while entertaining a client for instance.
 






The Kid Frankie

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Sep 5, 2012
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Who are these 76 people that DON'T like celebratory flying beer?

Why do you bother going to football you absolute whoppers
 


Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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I went to watch one of the Hundred games at Lord's and it was an utterly depressing experience. Some of the highest quality domestic cricket I've seen for a long time but next to no one in the crowd was watching the game. Up and down constantly, 18 year olds nearly paralytic, beer being chucked at others and a pretty aggressive experience around all of that.

What's wrong with having a couple of pints before the game in anticipation of the match, and having a couple after? Why turn football into a drinking contest?
 
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keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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I went to watch one of the Hundred games at Lords and it was an utterly depressing experience. Some of the highest quality domestic cricket I've seen for a long time but next to no one in the crowd was watching the game. Up and down constantly, 18 year olds nearly paralytic, beer being chucked at others and a pretty aggressive experience around all of that.

What's wrong with having a couple of pints before the game in anticipation of the match, and having a couple after? Why turn football into a drinking contest?

And one of the main points of the Hundred was that there would be less alcohol and drinking
 


Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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London
And one of the main points of the Hundred was that there would be less alcohol and drinking

Yes, that game was after Lord's brought in lots of rules to try and stop it becoming a binge as well.

The reality is we have proven over and over again that it would be an unwelcoming nightmare.
 




rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
4,988
Mixed feelings, heart says yea but head says no; I can’t be bothered with getting up and down every five minutes because someone wants yet another pint or a piss, having beer spilt on me as people struggle through the seats holding 3 pints, having beer puddles around me from knocked over pints and being covered in it when we score as pints are luzzed in the air.

Things are okay as they are.

Rugby seems to manage just fine.

The "draconian measures" mentioned by the OP came about primarily through the Taylor Report. Let's not forget that for years, the police attributed the Hillsborough disaster to "drunken fans". As we now all know, it was police incompetence that led to the tragedy.

Any and all measures that were imposed as a result of police corruption in lying to Taylor and to other inquests and enquiries should be immediately repealed.
 


Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Oxton, Birkenhead
Who are these 76 people that DON'T like celebratory flying beer?

Why do you bother going to football you absolute whoppers

Odd. There isn’t any celebratory flying beer at football. It’s banned. Therefore nobody goes to football for celebratory flying beer. So maybe the 76 are the only people in the poll who actually go to football ? (And me, I didn’t vote).
 


Rookie

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Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Leave as it is - don't get the need to have a drink during the game. Is going 45 minutes without a beer really that much of a big deal?
 


Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Voted yes but close the bars.

The current law promotes binge drinking with people getting as tanked as possible in pubs before getting to the ground. Imagine instead you can go to the ground, buy a pint and take it to your seat and chat with your mates watching the players warm up. You could buy another 15 minutes before kick off and not have to worry about drinking that too fast.

It'd be great at the Amex at half time because even if it does take you 15 minutes to queue for a pint, you wouldn't then have a choice of downing it or missing 10 minutes of the second half.

I hear and agree with views that people don't want beer chucked all over them and don't want people squeezing past constantly to go to the toilet/bar - but there can and should be a relaxation of the rules that wouldn't have those consequences.
 




Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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Playing snooker
Rugby seems to manage just fine.

Completely different dynamic in rugby and rugby crowds and the crowd culture of the sport. Plus the scoring of points is far, far less pivotal moment in a rugby match, compared to the scoring of a goal in football. The two sports cannot be reasonably compared when trying to understand the likely impact of allowing drinking in the stands.
 


Moshe Gariani

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Mar 10, 2005
12,199
Leave as it is - don't get the need to have a drink during the game. Is going 45 minutes without a beer really that much of a big deal?
This. Modern football is already diminished enough as an expensive day out for people who aren't really into the club they are meant to be supporting...
 


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