[Politics] Don't worry Swansman we have got your back...

[Insel affe]

My dear Swansman, if Russia does ever attack Sweden, Boris has promised to come to the rescue.....

good luck with that promise...



"This is an agreement that enshrines the values that both Sweden and the UK hold."

I suggest me and you put our past disagreements and mutual hatred of each other behind us.
For the love of Potter we are now brothers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61404062

 

[Happy Exile]

Poor Sweden!

 

[Swansman]

So excited

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

So excited

Were loose

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

So excited

Beach Hut-tastic!!!

 

[1066familyman]

This NATO expansion and Russia's aggression in Ukraine is all a bit chicken and egg really isn't it.

Still, most people still believe that old chestnut that NATO is merely a 'defensive alliance'.

 

[Wellesley]

Poor Sweden!

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I don't think President Zelensky would agree with you.

 

[Swansman]

This NATO expansion and Russia's aggression in Ukraine is all a bit chicken and egg really isn't it.

Still, most people still believe that old chestnut that NATO is merely a 'defensive alliance'.

Indeed. And no one is suggesting we vote for applying or not... silly.

But the Wallenberg family went out on pretty much day one and said that it would be economically wise to join. And they are the ones who rule this country and own our weapon industry.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Indeed. And no one is suggesting we vote for applying or not... silly.

But the Wallenberg family went out on pretty much day one and said that it would be economically wise to join. And they are the ones who rule this country and own our weapon industry.

If that’s the reason it’s odd that it never occurred to them before…

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This NATO expansion and Russia's aggression in Ukraine is all a bit chicken and egg really isn't it.

Still, most people still believe that old chestnut that NATO is merely a 'defensive alliance'.

It is. NATO has never made a pre-emptive strike.

My objection is Johnson has made this decision without Parliament. He is acting like dictator without accountability.
Don’t get me wrong, if Sweden joins NATO then we automatically protect members, but if Russia invades or commits an act of hostility, now we are bound to protect them.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I don't think President Zelensky would agree with you.

Indeed. It’s going to be quite difficult though for people to admit they were wrong.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

My objection is Johnson has made this decision without Parliament. He is acting like dictator without accountability.
Don’t get me wrong, if Sweden joins NATO then we automatically protect members, but if Russia invades or commits an act of hostility, now we are bound to protect them.

That is not true. The UK has made a political declaration not an international treaty.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...surances-sweden-and-finland-not-just-symbolic

 

[1066familyman]

It is. NATO has never made a pre-emptive strike.

My objection is Johnson has made this decision without Parliament. He is acting like dictator without accountability.
Don’t get me wrong, if Sweden joins NATO then we automatically protect members, but if Russia invades or commits an act of hostility, now we are bound to protect them.

Libya

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That is not true. The UK has made a political declaration not an international treaty.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...surances-sweden-and-finland-not-just-symbolic

Oh in that case, it’s not worth anything. Everyone knows Johnson doesn’t keep international treaties.
I can rest easy.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Libya

NATO were not involved in Libya. Don’t confuse American or British action with NATO.

 

[1066familyman]

NATO were not involved in Libya. Don’t confuse American or British action with NATO.

Quite, British and American Imperialism using NATO as a cloak.

Also, are you telling me French air strikes on Libyan tanks didn't happen?

 

[Mr Putdown]

Indeed. And no one is suggesting we vote for applying or not... silly.

But the Wallenberg family went out on pretty much day one and said that it would be economically wise to join. And they are the ones who rule this country and own our weapon industry.

I used to be good friends with Peder and a couple of his spouses, back when he was domiciled in Sussex.

I’ve an amusing story about Victoria and Madeleine Gustaf when they were staying with Peder and Helena one summer.

 

[Swansman]

I used to be good friends with Peder and a couple of his spouses, back when he was domiciled in Sussex.

I’ve an amusing story about Victoria and Madeleine Gustaf when they were staying with Peder and Helena one summer.

*Bernadotte. Gustaf is not the surname, it is just the go-to name for our kings.

Tell me the gossip!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Quite, British and American Imperialism using NATO as a cloak.

Also, are you telling me French air strikes on Libyan tanks didn't happen?

It was from the United Nations under United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973.

 

[Guinness Boy]

As part of the island of red and green that lights up the southern political map I believe Portslade nominally opted out of NATO a few years ago. I'll have to back up Swansman by upping my vodka consumption, taking up smoking again and being nice to Graham.