Donald Trump's claim that he's made lots of sacrifices for America

[Tyrone Biggums]

The Libertarians are the only party that is providing actual successful politicians as its candidates.

Gary Johnson is a far superior politician to the shitlord twins Trump and Clinton.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Terrifying? Used an FBI server for private emails, charged for speaking at private functions.......am I missing something. I thought she was just your average politician lacking in charisma.

Here in the States, depending on which TV channel you're watching, she is either 'crooked' Hillary and should be burnt at the stake or Saint Hillary who will be completely exonerated of all charges. The FBI have recommended that no charges should be filed but it will be interesting to see if Julian Assange makes good on releasing some of the allegedly destroyed e mails on Wiki Leaks. When they start the televised debates between her and Trump I think she's going to wipe the floor with him as he won't be able to get away with the BS he's been peddling so far.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Here in the States, depending on which TV channel you're watching, she is either 'crooked' Hillary and should be burnt at the stake or Saint Hillary who will be completely exonerated of all charges. The FBI have recommended that no charges should be filed but it will be interesting to see if Julian Assange makes good on releasing some of the allegedly destroyed e mails on Wiki Leaks. When they start the televised debates between her and Trump I think she's going to wipe the floor with him as he won't be able to get away with the BS he's been peddling so far.

The name Clinton and bullshit go hand in hand.

Can't have one without the other.

 

[pastafarian]

Amazing how close America's right wing Christian politics are to the screwed up version of Islam pushed by Daesh, when it comes to women in particular.

There is nothing "close" at all to how the barbaric muslims of The Islamic State treat women.
It’s a bit sick you offer this "close" comparison and wish to relegate the utter vileness of these perverse muslim monsters at all. How on earth can you compare the sick stoning,beating to death,rape,beheading,shooting,and setting on fire of women under spurious Islamic law to American christians?

What a sad reflection on how apologists have managed to twist the agenda that you can even come out with this rubbish and how some sheep will believe you.

It’s a common misconception that somehow nutty American Christians(and there are plenty) are the preserve of The Republicans.
The scourge of religious influence in American politics is widespread across the board.
There are lobby groups everywhere.

 

[looney]

I too am genuinely puzzled by what she has done to be labelled a criminal and "the devil". Any-one care to enlighten me (and I think beorhthelm has dealt with Benghazi and emailgate unless he has missed some important point)?

There is plenty of evidence if you move away from the Clinton News Network. This is long, the part on Haiti is gobsmacking.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM

 

[beorhthelm]

Here in the States, depending on which TV channel you're watching, she is either 'crooked' Hillary and should be burnt at the stake or Saint Hillary who will be completely exonerated of all charges. The FBI have recommended that no charges should be filed but it will be interesting to see if Julian Assange makes good on releasing some of the allegedly destroyed e mails on Wiki Leaks. When they start the televised debates between her and Trump I think she's going to wipe the floor with him as he won't be able to get away with the BS he's been peddling so far.

wasnt he supposed to leak a bunch of material on the day of the nomination at convention? i doubt he has anything, cant see any reason to withhold it, self publicist using any event to get attention.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Hilary is a pathological liar and yet she seems to get away with it not being made an issue of.

"I remember landing under sniper fire in Bosnia. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base," Hillary remembered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...claim-of-landing-under-sniper-fire-in-bosnia/



http://www.blacknewsweekly.com/news461.html

 

[Stat Brother]

There is nothing "close" at all to how the barbaric muslims of The Islamic State treat women.
It’s a bit sick you offer this "close" comparison and wish to relegate the utter vileness of these perverse muslim monsters at all. How on earth can you compare the sick stoning,beating to death,rape,beheading,shooting,and setting on fire of women under spurious Islamic law to American christians?

What a sad reflection on how apologists have managed to twist the agenda that you can even come out with this rubbish and how some sheep will believe you.

As extreme as it seems all the while The Greatest Democracy of Earth restricts women's rights on women's issues it leaves itself wide open to the charge. Especially while handing out Viagra like it's Haribo at a birthday party.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-abortion-idUSKCN0ZC0JL

That's before taking into account the biggest victim of gun crime:-

https://everytownresearch.org/reports/guns-and-violence-against-women/

More than half of women murdered with guns in the U.S. in 2011 — at least 53 percent — were killed by intimate partners or family members.

None of which is likely to change any time soon while America can sit proudly above Kyrgyzstan with it's 19.4% of women in Parliament.
http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Trump is now being denounced as a RINO (Republican in name only) by some Republicans. This whole Presidential Election just keeps getting better and better. Perhaps he will do a BORIS and throw a WOBBLY in November and FLOUNCE off the stage.

 

[Stat Brother]

Trump is now being denounced as a RINO (Republican in name only) by some Republicans. This whole Presidential Election just keeps getting better and better. Perhaps he will do a BORIS and throw a WOBBLY in November and FLOUNCE off the stage.

You are correct, it does keep getting better, right up to the moment you remember what prize the winner gets.

There has to be so many constitutional scholars pawing all over the fine print in readiness for the end game.
I'll be more surprised if something big and 'never happened before' doesn't happen, and the election just runs it's natural course.
An eleventh hour flounce by The Donald has to be high on the list of possibilities.

Sadly the way the rhetoric is going gun fire can't be ruled out either.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

You are correct, it does keep getting better, right up to the moment you remember what prize the winner gets.

There has to be so many constitutional scholars pawing all over the fine print in readiness for the end game.
I'll be more surprised if something big and 'never happened before' doesn't happen, and the election just runs it's natural course.
An eleventh hour flounce by The Donald has to be high on the list of possibilities.

Sadly the way the rhetoric is going gun fire can't be ruled out either.

Yeah – it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. But it is starting to look as if big gaps are opening up in the Trump camp. More and more senior republicans, high ranking military officials and donors are saying they cannot support or work with Trump. That leaves a few options – Trump starts to tone down the rhetoric and appear more Presidential (seems very unlikely) or they start looking for a viable alternative candidate.

 

[Gwylan]

That leaves a few options – Trump starts to tone down the rhetoric and appear more Presidential (seems very unlikely) or they start looking for a viable alternative candidate.

Is that an option though? Is there a cut-off point after which it's too late to select someone?

Even if it were legally possible, is there a mechanism to select an alternative candidate after the convention? I'm not sure who the candidate would be - if they picked Cruz I'm not convinced they'd be much better off.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Is that an option though? Is there a cut-off point after which it's too late to select someone?

Even if it were legally possible, is there a mechanism to select an alternative candidate after the convention? I'm not sure who the candidate would be - if they picked Cruz I'm not convinced they'd be much better off.

Don't know - but as they are talking about it I guess there is a mechanism. Cruz would be even more scary to me than Trump if that's possible

 

[beorhthelm]

Yeah – it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. But it is starting to look as if big gaps are opening up in the Trump camp. More and more senior republicans, high ranking military officials and donors are saying they cannot support or work with Trump. That leaves a few options – Trump starts to tone down the rhetoric and appear more Presidential (seems very unlikely) or they start looking for a viable alternative candidate.

after defeating Cruz, pre-convention it did seem that Trump was changing tone and looked like he would slowly start rowing back on some of the rhetoric and outlandish claims. the convention had the opposite affect, maybe the pomp got to him and he's turned it up to 12 now. you dont have to be American to understand knocking a dead war hero goes down badly with the centre right-right, there's not a nation in the world that would wash, in most even the left would wince or leave well alone.

what happened to Bloomburg? is there time for new entrants as an independent?

 

[McTavish]

I haven't watched it all but looked at a couple of bits including the Haiti section and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that is not circumstantial. Yes a lot of it seems tawdry and there seems to be a lot of favours being called in etc but a similar programme could easily have been made about any number of US Presidents (Halliburton, Iran Contra etc etc). I saw absolutely no evidence of any criminal activity by Hillary and no reason to call her the Devil...

 

[Triggaaar]

Rather than do what I have done in the past (call you an idiot or somesuch )...... I'll accept that when he becomes pres, he may well haul back the 'world policeman' thing and focus on the US. The Americans have a bad record of interfering around the world, starting wars they can't finish etc. Focusing on themselves and avoiding anti commy, anti Islam 'crusades' would be a good thing.

Unfortunately Trump won't be able to resist, and it will be more of the same (albeit he will be picking fights more close to home, with Mexico and Canada, before venturing forth). But if one American gets kidnapped in Syria, he'll be all for 'globalisation' (well, 'standing up for America').

Not if that American is a recent immigrant, is Islamic or has an Arabic name he won't.

 

[Triggaaar]

Amazing how close America's right wing Christian politics are to the screwed up version of Islam pushed by Daesh, when it comes to women in particular.

Really? What are their politics?

 

[knocky1]

Not if that American is a recent immigrant, is Islamic or has an Arabic name he won't.

Not sure a person can be Islamic.

 

[Triggaaar]

Not sure a person can be Islamic.

I should have said Muslim shouldn't I. I'll say three Hail Marys.

 

[Stat Brother]

Don't know - but as they are talking about it I guess there is a mechanism. Cruz would be even more scary to me than Trump if that's possible

I know Ted Cruz is the biggest wack-job of them all, but even with that caveat he still doesn't scare me as much as Carly Fiorina.

Other than all the bribes, corruption and Bridgegate what was wrong with Chris Christie?
He always came across as a decent chap.