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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






Cordwainer

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2023
842
I said similar to my wife. They’ll contrive some emergency and use that as justification for suspending democracy.

It’s staggering how much complacency there still is about how “strong” US democracy is…in a two-party state, only one party needs to die for democracy to end.
Didn’t he say in his latest statement that he would invoke a state of emergency now, in relation to areas effected by Canadas ‘electricity’ No idea why he used parentheses.
 


SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
398
Didn’t he say in his latest statement that he would invoke a state of emergency now, in relation to areas effected by Canadas ‘electricity’ No idea why he used parentheses.
Yes, but localised as you say. A national state of emergency would presumably be required to suspend democracy.

Hitler had his Reichstag fire. Trump will have his…?
 










Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,550
Worthing
Yes, but localised as you say. A national state of emergency would presumably be required to suspend democracy.

Hitler had his Reichstag fire. Trump will have his…?
In The Handmaids Tale - written in 1984, it was an attack on Congress and the killing of those inside that was the trigger.
 


GoldstoneVintage

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2024
519
Europe
Yes, but localised as you say. A national state of emergency would presumably be required to suspend democracy.

Hitler had his Reichstag fire. Trump will have his…?
Yep, the parallels with Hitler are clear. Hitler tried a coup in (I think) 1924. It failed and he was jailed for a brief time. Then won electorally in 1930s and proceeded to dismantle democracy. So far, so Trump. The Reichstag fire was the final nail...
 








Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,510
What hope has Ukraine got in the "peace" talks when Trump talks of subsuming Canada into the USA, in the same way Putin wants to subsume Ukraine into Russia?

This latest Trump tweet is nuts. I hope reporters start asking Trump's cabinet members what they think about the President's plans for a takeover of Canada. Let's get this all out there in the open and see how many nutjobs we're dealing with here.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,550
Worthing
What hope has Ukraine got in the "peace" talks when Trump talks of subsuming Canada into the USA, in the same way Putin wants to subsume Ukraine into Russia?

This latest Trump tweet is nuts. I hope reporters start asking Trump's cabinet members what they think about the President's plans for a takeover of Canada. Let's get this all out there in the open and see how many nutjobs we're dealing with here.
If they do they'll probably get the usual non answer, insult and maybe even a veiled threat.
 


SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
398
What hope has Ukraine got in the "peace" talks when Trump talks of subsuming Canada into the USA, in the same way Putin wants to subsume Ukraine into Russia?

This latest Trump tweet is nuts. I hope reporters start asking Trump's cabinet members what they think about the President's plans for a takeover of Canada. Let's get this all out there in the open and see how many nutjobs we're dealing with here.
Ukraine isn’t as dependent on US aid as Trump and Putin are making out.

This is a well balanced summary from someone oft quoted on here:



A lot of what Trump says is about power dynamics and control. He’s the type of person who’d threaten to punch you in the face to soften you up before he asks you to buy a raffle ticket.
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
5,360
Cleveland, OH
There must be one or two 'normal' Americans of influence getting a little disturbed by this bloke's antics.
I just gotta hope that maybe, just maybe, even his own cabinet might be whispering "this guy is f***ing nuts, right?"

Little Marco Rubio is clearly not happy about what's going on.

How f***ed is it that Marco Rubio is currently my best hope?!?
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,398
In The Handmaids Tale - written in 1984, it was an attack on Congress and the killing of those inside that was the trigger.
At this point in time Gilead would be a better government than the current lineup.
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
17,163
There must be one or two 'normal' Americans of influence getting a little disturbed by this bloke's antics.
On the flipside, I'm surprised one of our resident Trump fans hasn't piped up to tell us how wonderfully it is all going and how it's all so amazing over there and that American's have never had it this good...
 


Withdean South Stand

Well-known member
Mar 2, 2014
712
I just gotta hope that maybe, just maybe, even his own cabinet might be whispering "this guy is f***ing nuts, right?"

Little Marco Rubio is clearly not happy about what's going on.

How f***ed is it that Marco Rubio is currently my best hope?!?
Excellent nod to Lil'Marco!

It's amazing how many people have had to totally reverse their position on Trump in the last decade. Absolutely shameful and it's really, really clear that Lil'Marco knows better. JD Vance absolutely does not.
 








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