[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[US Seagull]

The leopards are even eating the Tiger King's face

 

[A1X]

Nowhere does he mention Britain or France.I agree with Vance, more lies. Real news is is the Aussie pm apologising to Vance. That's well documented
I ignore msm. It twists things constantly against Trump and his band of merry men.

That’s the best you can offer? Dear me.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I don’t post often, and only commented on this thread because it seemed to generalise Americans in a way that didn’t feel fair. I definitely accept election results and don’t fall into the category of those who refuse to do so, as someone mentioned earlier.

My point about the small margin by which Trump won was simply to highlight that a huge part of the U.S. does not share those views. Despite us Brits generally being good at geography, I think people sometimes forget just how big the U.S. is. I live in Boston, (and other than New Hampshire which is a swing state) the closest red state is West Virginia which is 700 miles and a 10 hour drive away.

Boston itself is overwhelmingly liberal. In the last election, Kamala Harris won 76.3% of the vote here, compared to Donald Trump’s 20.2%, and that’s reflective of day-to-day conversations. MAGA signs exist, but they’re rare.

To illustrate, I was out for a walk when you posted and literally took photos of the first few houses I saw—every couple of houses have a Peace, Pride, or BLM flag. Had I walked a bit further, I would have seen an abundance of Stand with Ukraine flags as well. Boston is a liberal city, much like Brighton.

Like anywhere, it has its problems—healthcare, inequality, homelessness but people do take a stand. There are a lot of grassroots efforts, activism, and community-driven initiatives to push for change. And if you turn on the TV, you’ll see just how divided perspectives can be watching Fox News versus CNBC is like seeing two completely different countries.

I live in a blue-collar area, and the only negative response I’ve personally had was from an Irish-American (who had never visited Ireland) telling me I should “go back to the people who took away his mother’s land.”

Lastly, having served in the British Army and alongside the U.S. military in Afghanistan, I can confidently say that Vance’s remarks don’t reflect the views of American veterans. They are incredibly passionate about supporting and celebrating service members, and in my experience, they have always shown a deep appreciation for the sacrifices of the British military.

Understand and agree with everything that you've posted there, which I why I am interested in @spence's experiences of living in the US and how it's affected his views

 

[BiffyBoy100]

I don’t post often, and only commented on this thread because it seemed to generalise Americans in a way that didn’t feel fair. I definitely accept election results and don’t fall into the category of those who refuse to do so, as someone mentioned earlier.

My point about the small margin by which Trump won was simply to highlight that a huge part of the U.S. does not share those views. Despite us Brits generally being good at geography, I think people sometimes forget just how big the U.S. is. I live in Boston, (and other than New Hampshire which is a swing state) the closest red state is West Virginia which is 700 miles and a 10 hour drive away.

Boston itself is overwhelmingly liberal. In the last election, Kamala Harris won 76.3% of the vote here, compared to Donald Trump’s 20.2%, and that’s reflective of day-to-day conversations. MAGA signs exist, but they’re rare.

To illustrate, I was out for a walk when you posted and literally took photos of the first few houses I saw—every couple of houses have a Peace, Pride, or BLM flag. Had I walked a bit further, I would have seen an abundance of Stand with Ukraine flags as well. Boston is a liberal city, much like Brighton.

Like anywhere, it has its problems—healthcare, inequality, homelessness but people do take a stand. There are a lot of grassroots efforts, activism, and community-driven initiatives to push for change. And if you turn on the TV, you’ll see just how divided perspectives can be watching Fox News versus CNBC is like seeing two completely different countries.

I live in a blue-collar area, and the only negative response I’ve personally had was from an Irish-American (who had never visited Ireland) telling me I should “go back to the people who took away his mother’s land.”

Lastly, having served in the British Army and alongside the U.S. military in Afghanistan, I can confidently say that Vance’s remarks don’t reflect the views of American veterans. They are incredibly passionate about supporting and celebrating service members, and in my experience, they have always shown a deep appreciation for the sacrifices of the British military.

Understand and agree with everything that you've posted there, which I why I am interested in @spence's experiences of living in the US and how it's affected his views

sorry @WATFORD zero it cut off Spence’s name in the first part so looked like we were disagreeing.

I was just replying to you question about my experience living here to try and give some insight.

 

[abc]

I don’t post often, and only commented on this thread because it seemed to generalise Americans in a way that didn’t feel fair. I definitely accept election results and don’t fall into the category of those who refuse to do so, as someone mentioned earlier.

My point about the small margin by which Trump won was simply to highlight that a huge part of the U.S. does not share those views. Despite us Brits generally being good at geography, I think people sometimes forget just how big the U.S. is. I live in Boston, (and other than New Hampshire which is a swing state) the closest red state is West Virginia which is 700 miles and a 10 hour drive away.

Boston itself is overwhelmingly liberal. In the last election, Kamala Harris won 76.3% of the vote here, compared to Donald Trump’s 20.2%, and that’s reflective of day-to-day conversations. MAGA signs exist, but they’re rare.

To illustrate, I was out for a walk when you posted and literally took photos of the first few houses I saw—every couple of houses have a Peace, Pride, or BLM flag. Had I walked a bit further, I would have seen an abundance of Stand with Ukraine flags as well. Boston is a liberal city, much like Brighton.

Like anywhere, it has its problems—healthcare, inequality, homelessness but people do take a stand. There are a lot of grassroots efforts, activism, and community-driven initiatives to push for change. And if you turn on the TV, you’ll see just how divided perspectives can be watching Fox News versus CNBC is like seeing two completely different countries.

I live in a blue-collar area, and the only negative response I’ve personally had was from an Irish-American (who had never visited Ireland) telling me I should “go back to the people who took away his mother’s land.”

Lastly, having served in the British Army and alongside the U.S. military in Afghanistan, I can confidently say that Vance’s remarks don’t reflect the views of American veterans. They are incredibly passionate about supporting and celebrating service members, and in my experience, they have always shown a deep appreciation for the sacrifices of the British military.

You may not post very often but that is a very worthwhile contribution

 

[Cotton Socks]

He apparently bankrupted his casinos. How the f*** do you manage to bankrupt a casino?

Fake news.
He had the 'bestest' casinos in the whole world, just ask anyone. But there were some very bad croupiers, very bad and they didn't do their jobs properly. Ya know, too many people won $20 on the roulette, the croupiers were all corrupt.
He decided to sell the casinos and everyone wanted to buy them, they all said 'Donald, these casinos are the best casinos I've ever seen ever in the world', he made a 'great, great' profit. Biggest profit anyone has ever seen, everyone told him how great he was with the profits on the casinos, everyone knows it.

I may have made all that up & he's likely not to be able to manage a shopping budget.

 

[zefarelly]

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

He did get told off

 

[zefarelly]

He can get impeached under the 25th amendment if he's declared unable to carry out his duties for example. Would still leave Vance though.

Neither of them are capable of anything I'm aware of, bar shouting and pointing.

car park attendants?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Just seen Justin Trudeau on the news. There's only so long you can keep going without pointing out the obvious, that Trump is a moron

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Unhinged lunatic

This could end up with a trade embargo.

Is Trump Chancellor Palpatine?

 

[maffew]

Neither of them are capable of anything I'm aware of, bar shouting and pointing.

car park attendants?

Wetherspoons doormen? Actually they'd slapped for gobbing off

 

[Fungus]

I actually went with GivEnergy for battery / inverter, been pretty decent

Powerwalls are getting discounted. Wonder why...

Also pleased with my GivEnergy All-in-One.

 

[abc]

In the midst of this ongoing shitshow, I have been trying to create a possible positive outcome when the dust has settled:

1. Europe (supported by the sane nations like Canada) comes together and becomes a stabilising 'world power' between the new imperialists of the US, Russia and China, leading to world peace through strength, sanity and diplomacy. This is Nato Mk 2 - properly financed but with only one objective: peace
2. Ukraine joins Nato Mk 2 and its sovereignty is assured.
3. Europe (inc the UK) understand the importance of economic self sufficiency and rebuild their manufacturing, tech, agricultural and arms industries. We continue with the principal of free trade but we are no longer dependent on it.
4. Trump crashes the US economy through tariffs and by politically isolating the US from the western nations and so the US people turn against him.
5. The next (consequently democrat) administration has to try and make friends with Europe , Canada etc in order to be invited back to the grown ups table. In other words, the US has to learn humility on the world stage and comes back as an equal partner not a dictator

Clutching at invisible straws or a possibility?

 

[SouthSaxon]

Unhinged lunatic

This could end up with a trade embargo.

Is Trump Chancellor Palpatine?
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If only they’d started by showing us the second term before the first

 

[WATFORD zero]

In the midst of this ongoing shitshow, I have been trying to create a possible positive outcome when the dust has settled:

1. Europe (supported by the sane nations like Canada) comes together and becomes a stabilising 'world power' between the new imperialists of the US, Russia and China, leading to world peace through strength, sanity and diplomacy. This is Nato Mk 2 - properly financed but with only one objective: peace
2. Ukraine joins Nato Mk 2 and its sovereignty is assured.
3. Europe (inc the UK) understand the importance of economic self sufficiency and rebuild their manufacturing, tech, agricultural and arms industries. We continue with the principal of free trade but we are no longer dependent on it.
4. Trump crashes the US economy through tariffs and by politically isolating the US from the western nations and so the US people turn against him.
5. The next (consequently democrat) administration has to try and make friends with Europe , Canada etc in order to be invited back to the grown ups table. In other words, the US has to learn humility on the world stage and comes back as an equal partner not a dictator

Clutching at invisible straws or a possibility?

We can only live in hope

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Justin Trudeau's question. Almost feels like it's directed at @lasvegan @spence and other Trump fans.

Can they make sense of that?

 

[BN41Albion]

Unhinged lunatic

This could end up with a trade embargo.

Is Trump Chancellor Palpatine?
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The utter cuntishness of calling him 'Governor Trudeau' as well.

 

[SouthSaxon]

In the midst of this ongoing shitshow, I have been trying to create a possible positive outcome when the dust has settled:

1. Europe (supported by the sane nations like Canada) comes together and becomes a stabilising 'world power' between the new imperialists of the US, Russia and China, leading to world peace through strength, sanity and diplomacy. This is Nato Mk 2 - properly financed but with only one objective: peace

That’d be lovely. We’re a long way from that right now.

2. Ukraine joins Nato Mk 2 and its sovereignty is assured.

Could go either way depending on the next few weeks.

3. Europe (inc the UK) understand the importance of economic self sufficiency and rebuild their manufacturing, tech, agricultural and arms industries. We continue with the principal of free trade but we are no longer dependent on it.

I think this is nailed on in some form.

4. Trump crashes the US economy through tariffs and by politically isolating the US from the western nations and so the US people turn against him.

Also a distinct possibility IMHO.

5. The next (consequently democrat) administration has to try and make friends with Europe , Canada etc in order to be invited back to the grown ups table. In other words, the US has to learn humility on the world stage and comes back as an equal partner not a dictator

This will very much depend on how quickly they can get Maga (not just Trump) out. An attempt to break term limits or even remove them seems likely to me.

People can talk about the strength of checks and balances but they are already being hollowed out and attacked. American democracy is in big trouble.

Let’s say it holds, the Republicans lose big at the mid-terms and Trump is gone in ‘29. Look how much damage he’s done in 5 weeks…it’ll take far more than just “our bad but we’re back now” to regain the trust that’s been broken. A lot of things are never going back.

Clutching at invisible straws or a possibility?

A little from column A and a little from column B? Anything is possible, even if it seems improbable, and hope is important.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Just seen Justin Trudeau on the news. There's only so long you can keep going without pointing out the obvious, that Trump is a moron

Trudeau is a proper leader, maybe not for much longer, but he is.