[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[A1X]

I would rather have Trumps economics policies, than Starmers.
I would rather have the UK position in supporting Urkaine than the current US policy, which is awful and dangerous. I was horrified to see what unfolded on Friday night.
It’s not a zero sum game….idiot

Fortunately most people realise there’s more to life than constant never-ending economic growth at any cost.

 

[Bold Seagull]

He has just confirmed tech investment of 100bn from TSC. No doubt to to take heat from China…. But is a lot of money to bring into country.
Wish we could bring that sort of money….
Not after NIC increases…… not a chance.
Give me investment over high tax. That’s how you grow.
Love him or hate him….. he’s a business man who is bringing money into his country.
We can only dream of those levels

I’m sure there is no other reason other than our employer NI contributions that Taiwan’s TSMC invested in the US rather than UK.

That said, TSMC is keen to invest in Europe, but prefer EU investment. So that’s good isn’t it. Oh…

 

[Curious Orange]

Much of that is true but as I understand it Churchill was refused support from the U.S. in July 1940 and they didn’t become involved at all in any way until it was in their own interests after Pearl Harbour, December 1941

Either way - we paid for our aid then and we are shelling out billions and billions of aid for Ukraine as are many other countries.

The USA were helping out before they formally entered the war.

My Grandad's battleship, HMS Malaya, was torpedoed on convoy duty and put into New York for repairs in March 1941. The attack on Pearl Harbour was in the December of that year.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I would rather have Trumps economics policies, than Starmers.
I would rather have the UK position in supporting Urkaine than the current US policy, which is awful and dangerous. I was horrified to see what unfolded on Friday night.
It’s not a zero sum game….idiot

What policies? The yellow warning lights are flashing on the US economy as they are others. What specific policies do you mean? Scrapping renewables? Tarrifs? Drilling for oil and gas?

 

[Littlemo]

I would rather have Trumps economics policies, than Starmers.
I would rather have the UK position in supporting Urkaine than the current US policy, which is awful and dangerous. I was horrified to see what unfolded on Friday night.
It’s not a zero sum game….idiot

His economic policies? They seem to be based on shutting down all federal programmes, even key ones like cutting Medicare and basically anything he doesn’t like and calling it waste. Yet the FAA are told to find money for Starlink and he intends to give tax cuts to rich people.

If anyone in America bar his mates actually sees a penny of benefit from that deal I would play Gully in goal the next time we play Palace. One good deal doesn’t give him good economic policies, not at all.

 

[Wozza]

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[BadFish]

There’s a big difference between using ‘Americans’ as a blanket statement and referring specifically to those who voted for Trump. And when you break it down, the margin in 2024 was actually very small. Trump won with just 49.8% of the vote to 48.3%, which isn’t exactly a landslide. It’s similar to Brexit, where only 51.9% voted to leave.

I split my time between the US and the UK (and fortunately live in a democratic state), and I’d be pretty offended if people made the same sweeping statements about us after Brexit. Take the South of England, for example, London voted 59.9% to remain, Brighton was 68.6% Remain, yet people lumped the whole country together as pro-Brexit.

It’s the same with the US—people picture Alabama and Texas, but the country is vast, politically diverse, and as varied as Europe in terms of views, laws, and even lifestyles.

We may be getting into the realms of semantics here but perhaps this is the root of what you see as anti-American.

for me elections, votes and referendums are a method for a group of people to decide something, election coverage is called 'America Decides'. I find it rather churlish when people who don't get what they voted for complain. If you are part of that group and part of that decision then you are part of that decison.

The US voted for Trump, the UK voted for Brexit, Australia voted for a labour government. These are all statements that are correct use of language and it is not 'anti' anything to recognise this.

 

[BiffyBoy100]

I take issue with the idea that my posts are anti american, I think that is a highly unfair and incorrect accusations.

I would ask you to quote the posts that you claim are anti American so I clarify my position and perhaps improve my communication or retract your somewhat vague accusations.

I’m not going to sit here and go through all your posts, I don’t have the time or inclination. I’m saying this specifically to you because, in my view, your posts can come across as quite anti-American at times. If that’s not your intention, then maybe it’s something to consider. Based on our post counts, you’ve clearly got more time on your hands than me. I’ll go back to the real world and let you continue arguing with everyone who doesn’t fit your narrative.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

His economic policies? They seem to be based on shutting down all federal programmes, even key ones like cutting Medicare and basically anything he doesn’t like and calling it waste. Yet the FAA are told to find money for Starlink and he intends to give tax cuts to rich people.

If anyone in America bar his mates actually sees a penny of benefit from that deal I would play Gully in goal the next time we play Palace. One good deal doesn’t give him good economic policies, not at all.

The primary purpose of foreign aid budgets is not altruism but to create markets in which US capital can invest. Not every initiative will bring returns and it will often involve playing the long game but anyone with even the most superficial knowledge of business strategy will be aware of this. All of the oligarchs lining up behind him will have benefitted from such new markets.

 

[Greenbag50]

What policies? The yellow warning lights are flashing on the US economy as they are others. What specific policies do you mean? Scrapping renewables? Tarrifs? Drilling for oil and gas?

Specifically his investment policies of attracting companies to invest in the US.
Unlike the UK currently where manufacturing investment is reducing, sky when we need it

 

[Greenbag50]

His economic policies? They seem to be based on shutting down all federal programmes, even key ones like cutting Medicare and basically anything he doesn’t like and calling it waste. Yet the FAA are told to find money for Starlink and he intends to give tax cuts to rich people.

If anyone in America bar his mates actually sees a penny of benefit from that deal I would play Gully in goal the next time we play Palace. One good deal doesn’t give him good economic policies, not at all.

If people don’t like it, they’ll vote in mid terms in 2 years.
We have to wait another 4…..

 

[spence]

If people don’t like it, they’ll vote in mid terms in 2 years.
We have to wait another 4…..

Pennsylvania had a firewall of 600k registered voters over Republicans in last election. That state went red.

Now thanks to Mr Presler and others that 600k is down to 87k.

That's a massive swing. Fantastic news.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Specifically his investment policies of attracting companies to invest in the US.
Unlike the UK currently where manufacturing investment is reducing, sky when we need it

What policies specifically that are attracting investment? Our corporate taxation is similar to the US, and lower than most of the EU. The Taiwan deal is more about China than specific policies. We’re hamstrung by leaving the EU hence TSMC are looking at Germany that has much higher corporate tax than we do rather than us that blows your tax conclusion out of the water really.

 

[FatSuperman]

If people don’t like it, they’ll vote in mid terms in 2 years.
We have to wait another 4…..

The current government are absolutely streets ahead of the previous decade plus of Tory austerity and nonsense, so I don't quite know why you are pining for change as if we've just given up a bunch of economic geniuses mate.

 

[zefarelly]

Annual check in . . . .

hes still alive (Boooo)

he's still about as likeable and popular as Adolf Hitler on a bad day .

4 letter words are too good for him.

 

[BadFish]

I’m not going to sit here and go through all your posts, I don’t have the time or inclination. I’m saying this specifically to you because, in my view, your posts can come across as quite anti-American at times. If that’s not your intention, then maybe it’s something to consider. Based on our post counts, you’ve clearly got more time on your hands than me. I’ll go back to the real world and let you continue arguing with everyone who doesn’t fit your narrative.

That's helpful, thanks

I'll take your advice and try arguing with people who do agree with my narrative. I like a challege.

 

[Greenbag50]

The current government are absolutely streets ahead of the previous decade plus of Tory austerity and nonsense, so I don't quite know why you are pining for change as if we've just given up a bunch of economic geniuses mate.

Take a look at unemployment numbers gone up since election. Business confidence down. Taxes up. GDP per capita down since election…inflation up since last election
We are all poorer and businesses are paying more tax.
That Is not how you grow the economy. Mate

 

[FamilyGuy]

he normally delivers on his promises

Please elucidate, because I genuinely am unaware of one that is of any substance. Enlighten me.

 

[FamilyGuy]

He has just confirmed tech investment of 100bn from TSC. No doubt to to take heat from China…. But is a lot of money to bring into country.
Wish we could bring that sort of money….
Not after NIC increases…… not a chance.
Give me investment over high tax. That’s how you grow.
Love him or hate him….. he’s a business man who is bringing money into his country.
We can only dream of those levels

Only if and when he lives up to this new "confirmed" promise ......... not holding my breath though.

 

[FamilyGuy]

He's a shitty businesman, who covers it up with bullshit. Has never been anything better

He's a repeatedly failed, multiple bankrupted, criminally convicted, banned-from-charities, bullshitter of a lying, narcissistic grifter" who's daddy left him his money. He is most certainly NOT a businessman, although lots of his friends are - and they play him like a fiddle, and he thinks that they respect him.