[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

[TWOCHOICEStom]

No offence @Curious Orange

 

[Commander]

I am reminded of the Corbyn election. I was at drama school at the time, and made some deeply unpopular predictions to my peers which went against the consensus. Namely that we are in an echo chamber, and can’t assume that everyone in the country agrees just because the views in the campus are unanimous. Relatedly, while there are a lot of stupid people in the world, the primary concern for most people is self-interest. Trump has spoken to those voters and they’ve liked his message.

I am constantly astonished at how the vast majority of people live their lives like this. Look at the poll on this thread, almost 15% more people thought Harris was going to win than thought Trump was. I find it so odd how people struggle to differentiate between thinking something is going to happen, and wanting it to happen. They are two completely different things.

I also cannot understand why so many people in the UK seem to have absolutely no idea why your average American would vote for Trump. People really do struggle to put themselves in other people's shoes.

 

[Seasider78]

America would put Hulk Hogan in the white house if he ran for president

 

[jcdenton08]

America would put Hulk Hogan in the white house if he ran for president

In fairness, he is a real American, fights for the rights of every man.

 

[fly high]

My concern from here is should be Dems win in 4 years will the power be passed over? Biden only came to power because Pence believed in the rule of law, don't count on good men to do the right thing again

The one good thing is next time Trump can't stand although we don't know which looney tune he will get behind.

 

[Seasider78]

In fairness, he is a real American, fights for the rights of every man.

That’s the campaign slogan done!

 

[Stato]

The U21s were good though weren’t they?

 

[dsr-burnley]

This is classic victim blaming. What you’re implying is that if Trump were president, Ukraine would’ve been convinced to cede even more territory to Russia to appease Putin.

Sound familiar?

Rings a bell. It's what Obama did with Crimea, isn't it?

 

[BadFish]

I am constantly astonished at how the vast majority of people live their lives like this. Look at the poll on this thread, almost 15% more people thought Harris was going to win than thought Trump was. I find it so odd how people struggle to differentiate between thinking something is going to happen, and wanting it to happen. They are two completely different things.

I also cannot understand why so many people in the UK seem to have absolutely no idea why your average American would vote for Trump. People really do struggle to put themselves in other people's shoes.

I cannot understand why your average American would vote for him. I don't generally struggle with empathising with other people, in fact I am usually quite good at it.

Can you enlighten me?

I have heard that they voted for him to improve their lot economically. But I remain unconvinced that he is a better economic candidate and his policy of adding taffifs to Chinese imports is surely going to make the cost of living higher. So I don't understand this.

The ABC over here said the exit polls showed that the main reason people voted was democracy. And his track record in this area seems sketchy to say the least. So I don't understand this either.

 

[wellquickwoody]

The one good thing is next time Trump can't stand although we don't know which looney tune he will get behind.

Wait for the law change, just like Putin did.

 

[fly high]

I am constantly astonished at how the vast majority of people live their lives like this. Look at the poll on this thread, almost 15% more people thought Harris was going to win than thought Trump was. I find it so odd how people struggle to differentiate between thinking something is going to happen, and wanting it to happen. They are two completely different things.

I also cannot understand why so many people in the UK seem to have absolutely no idea why your average American would vote for Trump. People really do struggle to put themselves in other people's shoes.

You are right, I ticked Trump would win, not because that is what I wanted, far from it, but what I expected.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The one good thing is next time Trump can't stand although we don't know which looney tune he will get behind.

He'll doubtless try and change the rules on that. He's already hinted at it. Worked for his mate Putin

 

[Pavilionaire]

That’s the campaign slogan done!

Trump will change the rules and stand again in 2028. I think his next campaign slogan will appeal more directly to his base, maybe something punchy like:

"Suck my cock, bitch"

 

[Napper]

So for balance , does trump have any redeeming features

I'll start

He will push back on woke culture

 

[Stato]

The one good thing is next time Trump can't stand although we don't know which looney tune he will get behind.

With Congress, the House and the Supreme Court on side, the rules on term limits are as easily changed as Roe v Wade was. If the world wants rid, cheeseburgers seem a better bet than America’s institutions.

 

[fly high]

He'll doubtless try and change the rules on that. He's already hinted at it. Worked for his mate Putin

You could be right & with a Republican Senate & Congress plus Supreme Court there nothing to stop him

 

[Oh_aye]

I am constantly astonished at how the vast majority of people live their lives like this. Look at the poll on this thread, almost 15% more people thought Harris was going to win than thought Trump was. I find it so odd how people struggle to differentiate between thinking something is going to happen, and wanting it to happen. They are two completely different things.

I also cannot understand why so many people in the UK seem to have absolutely no idea why your average American would vote for Trump. People really do struggle to put themselves in other people's shoes.

Well, I just put myself into a fat idiot from Idaho's shoes and I still can't see it.

 

[jamie-oh]

So for balance , does trump have any redeeming features

I'll start

He will push back on woke culture

Whether you like him or hate him, you absolutely cannot deny that he's fascinating. I think that has to be a redeeming feature.

 

[One Love]

So for balance , does trump have any redeeming features

I'll start

He will push back on woke culture

What is it about woke culture that you don't like?

 

[Bozza]

I hate to keep doing this, but Pennsylvania is still favouring the Republicans, although it’s tighter than both Georgia and North Carolina when I was accused of going too early.

We’re still where we were: holding onto the expected Michigan win and flipping Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

All three are close and could go either way.

It’s not outside the realms of possibility that Trump could win all seven swing states.

When I wrote that post, I did type the line "Frankly, I wouldn't even rule out Trump winning the popular vote right now" but then I reflected that I was tired, emotional and gloomy, so I deleted it.