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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 174 42.0%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.4%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
So...that Madison Square Garden rally went well! I think Tre45on may have just f***ed himself with those Puerto Rican jokes. There are LOTS of those in Pennsylvania.
These people need to also remember what happened to their island after Hurricane Maria, Trump left them to rot

 






peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,378
Do we think the current polling at the top of the thread is reflective of what happens in the US next week, or wishful NSC thinking? 😃
Maybe a bit of both, but the ABC/ipsos demographic poll out over weekend makes good reading for Harris, in many demographics she's up on where Biden was in 2020, in Latinos where she was down a couple of points on Biden prior to weekend, maybe not so after the disastrous Trump NY rally that slagged off Latinos.

I also saw a pollster that posted on significance of turnout, 55% or less and likely Trump win, 60% narrow Harris, 65%+ large Harris win...... I have no idea how that is qualified but that was their opinion.

 






Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,578
Oh No Harris is rumbled!

Paid the republican speaker, got it through the speech vetting all speakers had to have, then got it in to teleprompter.

It's an Orwellian post truth cult.
Jesus H Tap Dancing Christ. What do these types have as a vocational background? Do they not care for personal credibility?
 






















beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
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so there are polls showing this large lead for Harris? because the best i've seen a couple of %. there is huge backing for Harris too, backed by many billionaires, so dont buy any "the other side is rigging it" claims.
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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I fear that this is just spin to try and energise the Dem vote. Betting markets have odds of Trump winning approaching 2-1 on this morning.
Yeah polymarket. Owned by Peter Thiel, billionaire Musk buddy and Trump supporter, And 60% of the money bet is coming from 4 large overseas accounts.

This isn't real or any type poll, its money manipulation. You could get Elvis as odds on with enough money.

It's all part of the post Nov 5th Stop the Steal narrative imho
 
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Bob!

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Jul 5, 2003
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I picked this up from another site.

Interesting polls over the last day, after 4 equal polls (herding much)? ABC/Ipsos broke cover with 4% lead for Harris and her on 51%. Little background, they were the only ones calling 2012 for Obama, after a slew of final predictions for Romney or tossups. Their cross tabs if at all accurate spell then end for Trump. Harris up +14 with women but men only down -6 with Trump. Also shows her performing better with African American and Latino voters than Biden. Also a reminder that African American males and Latino males are the lowest propensity voters, so a bit like Corbyn doing well with the 18-34s in huge amounts didn't actually translate to an election victory in 2019.

Again one poll means nothing, closely followed by 2 more, a +7 for Harris from a C rated pollster ( Big Village ) and then tonight a plus 4 (YouGov) for Harris.
 




peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,378
I picked this up from another site.

Interesting polls over the last day, after 4 equal polls (herding much)? ABC/Ipsos broke cover with 4% lead for Harris and her on 51%. Little background, they were the only ones calling 2012 for Obama, after a slew of final predictions for Romney or tossups. Their cross tabs if at all accurate spell then end for Trump. Harris up +14 with women but men only down -6 with Trump. Also shows her performing better with African American and Latino voters than Biden. Also a reminder that African American males and Latino males are the lowest propensity voters, so a bit like Corbyn doing well with the 18-34s in huge amounts didn't actually translate to an election victory in 2019.

Again one poll means nothing, closely followed by 2 more, a +7 for Harris from a C rated pollster ( Big Village ) and then tonight a plus 4 (YouGov) for Harris

Again, 1 poll doesn't prove anything. Voter intent means shit if people don't turn up and vote, but this is interesting. Kansas is the reddest of red states and as big a Trump country state as you may find.

First comment puts context with previous elections.


Huge if true.

 
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sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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so there are polls showing this large lead for Harris? because the best i've seen a couple of %. there is huge backing for Harris too, backed by many billionaires, so dont buy any "the other side is rigging it" claims.
I think the difference is that the reason to rig the polls is to use them as "evidence" as part of a potential future stolen election narative. Not "court of law" evidence, "evidence" to provoke reaction. I hope Harris isn't planning this - and so isn't trying to rig them.
 
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