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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 174 42.0%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.4%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • This poll will close: .


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
The Nasdaq doesn't open for 1/2 hour yet, but I just noticed that TMT is trading at (15%) in pre-trades - down to below $28 now...
Ended up $26.61, and a load more shares being issued. But also something about relisting shares - which gives me the impression that Trump will get around the 'waiting six months before being allowed to sell' issue. He'll sell his shares, at a vastly lower rate than they were 'worth' - but still vastly higher than the nothing they were previously worth. The company will then go bankrupt - and it will be all the smaller investors losing out, after Trump has cashed in as much as he could.
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Ended up $26.61, and a load more shares being issued. But also something about relisting shares - which gives me the impression that Trump will get around the 'waiting six months before being allowed to sell' issue. He'll sell his shares, at a vastly lower rate than they were 'worth' - but still vastly higher than the nothing they were previously worth. The company will then go bankrupt - and it will be all the smaller investors losing out, after Trump has cashed in as much as he could.
Trump can sell his shares early but only on the say so of the board of directors.

Obviously there's no need for you to look up who's on the board.
 


tedebear

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Jul 7, 2003
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This just astounds me, even more that the BBC would print it. She has gone stark raving looney mad! And the BBC prints it like theres nothing wrong with it....

 
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raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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She's genuinely gone bonkers. The rationalising of her disastrous budget and the reasons why she only lasted 7 weeks as PM (effectively 5 due to period of national mourning) do not indicate a sound mind.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Just continuing the trend of politicians endorsing Trump being mostly crazy
 


tedebear

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Just continuing the trend of politicians endorsing Trump being mostly crazy

Why on earth would Chris Mason of the BBC accept such a poison chalice...Just adding more fuel to my fire about the BBC and their lack of impartiality and behaviour some times like a Red Top rag....
 








raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
Shes bonkers. I just reneged on my "don't post on twitter rule", will probably go back in a hour and delete it when all the trolls and bots have come out...
Yes, twitter is hard work. I really admire the warriors out there fighting to get good messages out about difficult subjects: doctors, lawyers, aid workers etc...the level of abuse from trolls and bots can be brutal.
 




tedebear

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Yes, twitter is hard work. I really admire the warriors out there fighting to get good messages out about difficult subjects: doctors, lawyers, aid workers etc...the level of abuse from trolls and bots can be brutal.

It really is awful. Why so many news agencies still post to it, is such an interesting social study. Trump used twitter (before he created Truth Social) as a tool in his divide and conquer and "stick it to the man" rhetoric to great success...I kind of read twitter as a "this is the worst it can get" sort of side show, as it really shows peoples true colours...I just always have to resist posting, as many of the people on there will never ever change their mind.... which is soooo hard to debate against...
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Why on earth would Chris Mason of the BBC accept such a poison chalice...Just adding more fuel to my fire about the BBC and their lack of impartiality and behaviour some times like a Red Top rag....
It doesn’t help when the government put their own people on the board. For the main part, the BBC is balanced ie HIGNFY stays, along with David Attenborough & Chris Packham, but current affairs and news is definitely controlled.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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She's genuinely gone bonkers. The rationalising of her disastrous budget and the reasons why she only lasted 7 weeks as PM (effectively 5 due to period of national mourning) do not indicate a sound mind.
If you're talking about Truss, she's gobbing off today against the well-trailed HMG bill (supported by Labour) to step up the attack on cigarette smoking. Truss thinks that if children want to smoke they should be allowed to smoke. Into the sea with her!
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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It really is awful. Why so many news agencies still post to it, is such an interesting social study. Trump used twitter (before he created Truth Social) as a tool in his divide and conquer and "stick it to the man" rhetoric to great success...I kind of read twitter as a "this is the worst it can get" sort of side show, as it really shows peoples true colours...I just always have to resist posting, as many of the people on there will never ever change their mind.... which is soooo hard to debate against...
I don't use it but my impression is that people with Opinions use twitter to steamroller the rest. The very notion of debate is not part of the game.

NSC was exactly the same that 20 years ago, with a small majority of thoughtful people (the residue of the class of 2003). Active curation is the only solution of social media.
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Wiltshire
It really is awful. Why so many news agencies still post to it, is such an interesting social study. Trump used twitter (before he created Truth Social) as a tool in his divide and conquer and "stick it to the man" rhetoric to great success...I kind of read twitter as a "this is the worst it can get" sort of side show, as it really shows peoples true colours...I just always have to resist posting, as many of the people on there will never ever change their mind.... which is soooo hard to debate against...
Agreed! I rarely post there, and don't have any level of followers that mean my posts get read anyway 😂. I really will stop. One has to be either 100% invested in twitter posting to build a following (hopefully of good guys)...or forget it!
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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It doesn’t help when the government put their own people on the board. For the main part, the BBC is balanced ie HIGNFY stays, along with David Attenborough & Chris Packham, but current affairs and news is definitely controlled.
I really hope Labour backs the Beeb, the Tories are deliberately trying to hollow it out whilst using it as a propaganda tool forcing a lot of talent to depart.

We also need to back the world service and foreign language broadcasts properly. Despite the UK's declining influence in the world the Beeb is still highly respected and a great source of soft power overseas
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I really hope Labour backs the Beeb, the Tories are deliberately trying to hollow it out whilst using it as a propaganda tool forcing a lot of talent to depart.

We also need to back the world service and foreign language broadcasts properly. Despite the UK's declining influence in the world the Beeb is still highly respected and a great source of soft power overseas
Definitely, and the World service is a lot more balanced than the UK news.

Twitter was tolerable if you blocked the bots but since Musk bought it, there's very little moderation. I have reported blatant racist posts only to be told they haven't breached 'regulations'.
There are still some posters worth following and some laugh out loud memes.


Going back to Trump, I wonder if he has had some medication to keep him from having a tantrum and being locked up for contempt of court, or it may simply, he hasn't got the concentration to stay awake.
 




bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
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Dubai
I don't use it but my impression is that people with Opinions use twitter to steamroller the rest. The very notion of debate is not part of the game.

NSC was exactly the same that 20 years ago, with a small majority of thoughtful people (the residue of the class of 2003). Active curation is the only solution of social media.
:wave::bigwave:
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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Agreed! I rarely post there, and don't have any level of followers that mean my posts get read anyway 😂. I really will stop. One has to be either 100% invested in twitter posting to build a following (hopefully of good guys)...or forget it!
You also mustn’t have an original thought in your head but parrot the moral outrage of the populace if you want to be popular.

No one is interested in intelligent debate or nuance, it’s hard enough on internet forums to maintain non-polarised POVs - But under Musk, X has become the ideal platform for unmoderated toxicity, outraged soundbites and algo-driven echo chambers.
 


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