[Cricket] Doing the haka if you’re not Maori will be banned in UK

[Neville's Breakfast]

Jersey isn't part of the UK though, I suspect a lot of non UK based businesses that may have exported to the UK would have become relatively more expensive for UK buyers after joining the EU (or EEC as was) made EU produce cheaper.

Yes, the bloke I mentioned was a potato exporter. All a part of the realignment we voted for when we joined the EEC. It meant cheaper produce for us consumers on the mainland.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

You’re like that character down the pub who doesn’t know his own mind from the Fast Show

“There’s no disadvantages to a trade deal with New Zealand”

Well, yes there are actually, these ones

“Yeah well, there’s winners and losers in every trade deal”

You don’t half spout a load of nonsense when you get called on your bullshit.

You sound very confused and absolutely dying for an argument as per usual. Great game though, wasn’t it ? Lots of happy people where I live.

 

[The Clamp]

You sound very confused and absolutely dying for an argument as per usual. Great game though, wasn’t it ? Lots of happy people where I live.

Picking up on one of your contradictions is not an argument. If you prefer to avoid the point, that's fine too. There's no need for all this rather weird bluster of yours, I will happily drop it.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Yes, the bloke I mentioned was a potato exporter. All a part of the realignment we voted for when we joined the EEC. It meant cheaper produce for us consumers on the mainland.

He didn't take advantage of the world renowned 'Jersey Royals', the most famous Jersey potato, being part of the 'EU Protected Designation of Origin (PDO) status' then ?

That's a shame

Sorry, off to dinner and I'm hoping the restaurant will be serving New Jersey potatoes with my haggis. A beautiful combination of the best of british, I'm sure you'll agree

 

[Baldseagull]

Yes, the bloke I mentioned was a potato exporter. All a part of the realignment we voted for when we joined the EEC. It meant cheaper produce for us consumers on the mainland.

My point was that you were pointing to a farmer outside of the UK suffering as a consequence of the UK decision to join the EEC, in response to a story about farmers inside the UK losing out as part of the new reality of the UK decision to leave the EU.

I guess you were looking for a win some lose some for each scenario for UK farmers, but your "lose some" example for joining was for a non UK farmer.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Does the Haka get done often in the UK? By Maori or non-Maori people for commercial or non-commercial purposes?

Great question ...

Back in 2012 my county u10 boys cricket squad were playing in a week long festival at Malvern College.
They had some time on their hands so decided to create, choreograph and rehearse "the Haka"
Next day, parents were in fits of laughter watching their little darlings get all aggressive and feisty before start of play - scared the $hit out of the Glamorgan lads too ...

For the record, the entire Shropshire squad were all non-Maori - would this now be illegal?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

My point was that you were pointing to a farmer outside of the UK suffering as a consequence of the UK decision to join the EEC, in response to a story about farmers inside the UK losing out as part of the new reality of the UK decision to leave the EU.

I guess you were looking for a win some lose some for each scenario for UK farmers, but your "lose some" example for joining was for a non UK farmer.

I wasn’t looking for anything. Just relayed a story told to me by someone I used to walk the dogs with in Norfolk. I then somehow entered the twilight zone of the Brexit thread with the weird posters from there making their usual points. I obviously don’t mean you as you were making polite conversation as I was.

 

[The Clamp]

I wasn’t looking for anything. Just relayed a story told to me by someone I used to walk the dogs with in Norfolk. I then somehow entered the twilight zone of the Brexit thread with the weird posters from there making their usual points. I obviously don’t mean you as you were making polite conversation as I was.

Nobody was being weird. You claimed there were no disadvantages with a trade deal with NZ.
Some of us pointed out the potential disadvantages.
You’re the only one who’s enervated about it. You’ve been talking about it for hours. You got legit pulled up on an inaccurate claim. It’s not as big a deal as you seem to think.
Chill, we are all friends here.

 

[wellquickwoody]

The real story here is that finally we will be able to eat New Zealand lamb again.

A big positive as I remember.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

Great question ...

Back in 2012 my county u10 boys cricket squad were playing in a week long festival at Malvern College.
They had some time on their hands so decided to create, choreograph and rehearse "the Haka"
Next day, parents were in fits of laughter watching their little darlings get all aggressive and feisty before start of play - scared the $hit out of the Glamorgan lads too ...

For the record, the entire Shropshire squad were all non-Maori - would this now be illegal?

No, it's about using the haka in commercial settings, I assume there must be some sort of kiwi work do type events who flog the chance to do hakas on nights out or something.

 

[vegster]

I know an old fella in Dunedin who would be distraught.

Nice to see NSC keeping up with the important news. The real story here is that finally we will be able to eat New Zealand lamb again.

Although we were always able to buy New Zealand Lamb while we were in the EU anyway.

 

[Stat Brother]

All those UKIP/Brexit signs across the farmland of England probably didn't mean this.


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[Neville's Breakfast]

My point was that you were pointing to a farmer outside of the UK suffering as a consequence of the UK decision to join the EEC, in response to a story about farmers inside the UK losing out as part of the new reality of the UK decision to leave the EU.

I guess you were looking for a win some lose some for each scenario for UK farmers, but your "lose some" example for joining was for a non UK farmer.

The very minor point I was actually making is that changes in trading relationships change incentives and opportunities in the economy. No way around it. It’s just almost impossible on here to make any kind of point though without being dragged into an argument if that point is anywhere those posters’ sensitive subject.

 

[WATFORD zero]

The very minor point I was actually making is that changes in trading relationships change incentives and opportunities in the economy. No way around it. It’s just almost impossible on here to make any kind of point though without being dragged into an argument if that point is anywhere those posters’ sensitive subject.

Changes in trading relationships can cause huge changes in the economy, nobody is 'dragging anyone into an argument' about it.

It was just that you using a historical reference from 48 years ago of how an individual you know suffered 'as a result of joining the EU' to make your minor point struck me as amusing, almost like you're obsessed (or just a 'sensitive subject' for you). Maybe it was just coincidence that you used the EU for your example. It thought it was funny, that was all. Sorry

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Although we were always able to buy New Zealand Lamb while we were in the EU anyway.

Erm....quite. That was my facetious point

 

[sydney]

What’s the downside to having a trade deal with New Zealand (or anyone else) ? Ignore the Haka thing. It’s a headline grabbing cultural sensitivity we don’t understand. It’s not actually banned anyway in that there won’t be any consequences if you wake up one morning and decide to give it a go.

i normally perform the haka at least 5 times a day , this is worrying news.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Changes in trading relationships can cause huge changes in the economy, nobody is 'dragging anyone into an argument' about it.

It was just that you using a historical reference from 48 years ago of how an individual you know suffered 'as a result of joining the EU' to make your minor point struck me as amusing, almost like you're obsessed (or just a 'sensitive subject' for you). Maybe it was just coincidence that you used the EU for your example. It thought it was funny, that was all. Sorry

No problem. It was the example that came to mind. Not sure if I have any other personal experience of the effects of changes in trading relationships. I also wasn’t saying it was a bad thing. Change happens and the bloke I mentioned didn’t really suffer. He just moved to Norfolk to set up business although some would say that is suffering I really wasn’t making a point in your Brexit debate, I wouldn’t dare.

 

[WATFORD zero]

No problem. It was the example that came to mind. Not sure if I have any other personal experience of the effects of changes in trading relationships. I also wasn’t saying it was a bad thing. Change happens and the bloke I mentioned didn’t really suffer. He just moved to Norfolk to set up business although some would say that is suffering I really wasn’t making a point in your Brexit debate, I wouldn’t dare.

There is no Brexit debate, it's done, you really need to let it go. What we now need is new trade deals that don't entail shipping goods all the way across the planet with it's enormous environmental impact and doesn't undercut British businesses, hence this thread.

I just wish Johnson would stop trying to renegotiate it and simply get on with implementing what we agreed on NI, put our import controls in place and let us move on

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

There is no Brexit debate, it's done, you really need to let it go. What we now need is new trade deals that don't entail shipping goods all the way across the planet with it's enormous environmental impact and doesn't undercut British businesses, hence this thread.

I just wish Johnson would stop trying to renegotiate it and simply get on with implementing what we agreed on NI, put our import controls in place and let us move on

I use the word ‘Brexit’ as shorthand for your bit in bold (or one of your other long explanations for what you think we need). I’m not going to let it go as it saves me a lot of typing.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I use the word ‘Brexit’ as shorthand for your bit in bold (or one of your other long explanations for what you think we need). I’m not going to let it go as it saves me a lot of typing.

It's not what I 'think we need' it was what the Government agreed that we would implement in order to Get Brexit done (finally) and allow us to move on. It now appears that the Government are doing everything possible to re-open the negotiations.

I'm somewhat confused now as I thought the majority of people (including yourself and myself) now simply wanted to get it done and move on. Obviously not