Doesn't look good for the terrorist Mandela

[Commander]

Definition of Terrorist



What Nelson Mandela done (one of many things)



Nelson Mandela = Terrorist. No ifs or buts about it. You can't say he is a freedom fighter, he is a terrorist. He fits the definition of one. Remember, everybody that commits terrorism is doing it because they feel as though they are fighting for the good cause.

Difficult to argue with that.

Mandela's detractors are at least coming across as apologetic / defensive. Time was when his opponents had no problem describing themselves as "white supremacists". Mandela himself deserves much of the credit for that shift in opinion.

And that's a good point.

 

[Withdeano]

"Doesn't look good for the terrorist Mandela"

Every now and then I dip into NSC to find out the latest news on my team. I often dip out again hoping that the red necked, Daily Mail reading misogynists that spout drivel on here aren't reflective of the majority of our supporters

 

[BadFish]

Every now and then I dip into NSC to find out the latest news on my team. I often dip out again hoping that the red necked, Daily Mail reading misogynists that spout drivel on here aren't reflective of the majority of our supporters

They are not, they just drone on and on loudest and most constantly. They certainly don't represent the Brighton I know, which unfortunately feels embarrassed by NSC for the very reason you suggest.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Every now and then I dip into NSC to find out the latest news on my team. I often dip out again hoping that the red necked, Daily Mail reading misogynists that spout drivel on here aren't reflective of the majority of our supporters

Oi, plenty of us detest, deride and regularly diss the Daily Mail!

Lies, damned Lies and the Daily Mail - there you go!

 

[Common as Mook]

The Specials - Nelson Mandela - YouTube

Choon.

 

[BadFish]

Oi, plenty of us detest, deride and regularly diss the Daily Mail!

Lies, damned Lies and the Daily Mail - there you go!

To be fair David you are one of the sanest and most balance posters on here (excluding your imaginary friend of course, but that is another (several other) thread).

 

[pork pie]

Oi, plenty of us detest, deride and regularly diss the Daily Mail!

Lies, damned Lies and the Daily Mail - there you go!

Any plenty of us laugh at the pinko press like The Guardian, with their PC left-wing drivel.

 

[BadFish]

Any plenty of us laugh at the pinko press like The Guardian, with their PC left-wing drivel.

You mean high quality and balanced journalism of course?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

We also need to recognise that the ANC, under Nelson Mandela's leadership, was fighting to achieve a non-racial society - a cause that should be celebrated, however difficult it is to achieve.

 

[Brovion]

Definition of Terrorist



What Nelson Mandela done (one of many things)



Nelson Mandela = Terrorist. No ifs or buts about it. You can't say he is a freedom fighter, he is a terrorist. He fits the definition of one. Remember, everybody that commits terrorism is doing it because they feel as though they are fighting for the good cause.

I think you've just outlines exactly why to some/most of the world Mandela WAS a Freedom Fighter - although I accept if you supported the Aparthied regime then yes, he was a terrorist. It all depends on which side you were on. It's a bit like to us the French Resistance were freedom fighters, but to the Vichy French they were terrorists.

 

[pork pie]

You mean high quality and balanced journalism of course?

Yer right! Quality maybe, but balanced? Who are you trying to kid? They are as bad as the BBC.

 

[BadFish]

Definition of Terrorist



What Nelson Mandela done (one of many things)



Nelson Mandela = Terrorist. No ifs or buts about it. You can't say he is a freedom fighter, he is a terrorist. He fits the definition of one. Remember, everybody that commits terrorism is doing it because they feel as though they are fighting for the good cause.

So a terrorist is not necessarily a bad thing?

 

[GreersElbow]

inb4 EDL fanboys.

 

[BadFish]

Yer right! Quality maybe, but balanced? Who are you trying to kid? They are as bad as the BBC.

There are few news agencies more balanced than the BBC

 

[pork pie]

I think you've just outlines exactly why to some/most of the world Mandela WAS a Freedom Fighter - although I accept if you supported the Aparthied regime then yes, he was a terrorist. It all depends on which side you were on. It's a bit like to us the French Resistance were freedom fighters, but to the Vichy French they were terrorists.

Indeed. But whilst they were fighting in an admirable cause, and were finally respected as heros, their acts were those of "terror", under SOE leadership to Churchill's orders to "Set Europe Alight". To my undertanding, most of the French military were against them after the Armistice, which is why we had to support a junior General called De Gaulle. Indeed, with the expectancy of an invasion, a large infrastructure was set-up in this country with the intention of fighting the anticipated German occupation with acts of "terror".

 

[pork pie]

There are few news agencies more balanced than the BBC

The BBC has been left-wing for years. Plagued by too many arty-farty pinkos with tweed jackets, beards and elbow patches.

 

[BadFish]

The BBC has been left-wing for years. Plagued by too many arty-farty pinkos with tweed jackets, beards and elbow patches.

But can you name a more balanced news agency?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Definition of Terrorist



What Nelson Mandela done (one of many things)



Nelson Mandela = Terrorist. No ifs or buts about it. You can't say he is a freedom fighter, he is a terrorist. He fits the definition of one. Remember, everybody that commits terrorism is doing it because they feel as though they are fighting for the good cause.

Using that definition you'd also call the French freedom fighters of WWII terrorists which shows what a stupid definition it really is.

 

[Bakero]

Definition of Terrorist

What Nelson Mandela done (one of many things)

Nelson Mandela = Terrorist. No ifs or buts about it. You can't say he is a freedom fighter, he is a terrorist. He fits the definition of one. Remember, everybody that commits terrorism is doing it because they feel as though they are fighting for the good cause.

Ok.

free·dom fight·er
Noun
A person who takes part in a violent struggle to achieve a political goal.

Ergo, Mandela = Freedom Fighter. No ifs, no buts. You can't say he is a terrorist, he is a freedom fighter. He fits the definition of one.

 

[pork pie]

But can you name a more balanced news agency?

I would say that ITN is generally less politically biased. So yes, ITN.