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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,508
Worthing
Average room 4.8 x 4.8 walls only £550
 




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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,508
Worthing
I spend most of my time decorating nowadays and I can tell a plasterer from a ‘two month’ plasterer…😂
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
I’m simply comparing salaries to the amount of time and training required to get to the standard needed. I’m not picking on plasterers specifically just anyone that hasn’t done 4-5 years course / training shouldn’t expect to earn £500 a day in their chosen field .

Newly qualified doctors for instance don’t
Aren't Doctors striking about their shit pay?
The bigger problem is people expecting a fat salary because they have a degree in Classics or History from Oxford, and have a posh voice.
 






Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
4,718
I agree you do need to be qualified in something useful or you shouldn’t expect a big salary .

Speaking the Kings English is reassuring to many people as it’s a sign of good breeding ( apparently ) and that gives reassurance especially with a pilot flying a plane when you hear the voice !

However that doesn’t mean you are better at your job obviously. However in England first impressions do count .
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
I agree you do need to be qualified in something useful or you shouldn’t expect a big salary .

Speaking the Kings English is reassuring to many people as it’s a sign of good breeding ( apparently ) and that gives reassurance especially with a pilot flying a plane when you hear the voice !

However that doesn’t mean you are better at your job obviously. However in England first impressions do count .
I think we are getting away from that a bit at last, but......
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
19,597
Hurst Green
I agree you do need to be qualified in something useful or you shouldn’t expect a big salary .

Speaking the Kings English is reassuring to many people as it’s a sign of good breeding ( apparently ) and that gives reassurance especially with a pilot flying a plane when you hear the voice !

However that doesn’t mean you are better at your job obviously. However in England first impressions do count .
Wow
 




Seagull on the Hill

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Jan 22, 2022
754
Sounds about right . Most plasterers seem to charge around £500 a day labour if they are good . Yes it’s skilful in terms of you probably need a few months practice before you get good . However it’s still a lot of money for someone with no degree and it hasn’t taken him a 4-5 year study course to become a plasterer .
I know a few plasterers, and none of them charges £500 per day!
They wouldn't get a lot of work if they did.
 


Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
1,729
Spank the Manc
There’s more to the value of a job than how “hard” you work. Whether for better or worse that’s the reality in a our capitalist system.

I’m not disputing the value of trade jobs which take a huge physical toll on people, and they deserve a good salary. Trade jobs are highly skilled and just because there’s no degree shouldn’t diminish that. In fact many tradies do earn a very good living.

There are also a lot of people who graduate from useless degrees and end up earning a pittance in some dead end office administrative role. Not very satisfying.

There are many who graduate from supposedly prestigious courses, architecture springs to mind, only to find they’ve been sold a lie, earning bugger all and highly stressed until they progress a long way into their profession.

The well paid white collar jobs are often well paid for two reasons. Either you earn a lot of money because you’re bringing in a lot of money to your company, eg finance bros in the city. Or because your technical knowledge is in demand and not easy for people to do themselves, eg consultants, accountants and lawyers. Or both. Many of these jobs are also hard work, long hours and high stress, even if not physically taxing.

Why do we have to spend all our time playing class wars in this country?

Edit: it’s certainly also true that jobs with high social value but little opportunity for profit are underpaid, eg teachers and nurses and a lot of public sector jobs. There could well be more redistribution through taxation of higher bands to account for that but we won’t see that happen under this government.
 
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WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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There’s more to the value of a job than how “hard” you work. Whether for better or worse that’s the reality in a our capitalist system.

I’m not disputing the value of trade jobs which take a huge physical toll on people, and they deserve a good salary. Trade jobs are highly skilled and just because there’s no degree shouldn’t diminish that. In fact many tradies do earn a very good living.

There are also a lot of people who graduate from useless degrees and end up earning a pittance in some dead end office administrative role. Not very satisfying.

There are many who graduate from supposedly prestigious courses, architecture springs to mind, only to find they’ve been sold a lie, earning bugger all and highly stressed until they progress a long way into their profession.

The well paid white collar jobs are often well paid for two reasons. Either you earn a lot of money because you’re bringing in a lot of money to your company, eg finance bros in the city. Or because your technical knowledge is in demand and not easy for people to do themselves, eg consultants, accountants and lawyers. Or both. Many of these jobs are also hard work, long ours and high stress, even if not physically taxing.

Why do we have to spend all our time playing class wars in this country?

Because if you get all the people who actually work for a living (whatever that work is) naively arguing amongst themselves over a few grand here and there, and what 'class' they are, then they won't bother looking for where the real money is going :shrug:
 












Munkfish

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May 1, 2006
12,089
I’m simply comparing salaries to the amount of time and training required to get to the standard needed. I’m not picking on plasterers specifically just anyone that hasn’t done 4-5 years course / training shouldn’t expect to earn £500 a day in their chosen field .

Newly qualified doctors for instance don’t

£500 isnt all profit though is it, materials, insurance, cost of the van, tools equipment and other overheads.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,697
The Fatherland
Speaking the Kings English is reassuring to many people as it’s a sign of good breeding ( apparently ) and that gives reassurance especially with a pilot flying a plane when you hear the voice !
Even if female?
 






Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
20,677
Born In Shoreham
Newly qualified doctors don’t own a business.

You seem to have issues with trades people, the trades earning good money have their own business which means many overheads.
Trades that work for companies don’t earn anywhere near £500 per day, some not even £200

I actually did 4 years training to get the plumbing qualifications I’ve got, 1 long day a week at college and 4 days working.
We’ve been over this before with the poster 🙄
 




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