Does anyone still think Capello is the man for the Job ?

[Stoo82]

John Terry is the one ripping the team up, by trying to get his own way, without the backing, and performing abysmally on the pitch. Get him OUT

I agree with this statement.

He is a big baby and has not forgiven Capello for taking the armband away from him. Hevenforbid it might have been Mr Chelsea's fault. Wanker.

 

[BLOCK F]

We qualified comfortably, but once again when the tournament arrived, we absolutely STANK the place out. Same players, same old story.

Capello has brought success everywhere he has gone in his glittering career...except England. Frankly I think that says a lot more about our players than it does Capello.

Are we SERIOUSLY saying its not the players fault, its Capello's ? Honestly ?

They all have to take responsibility and I for one will be amazed if Capello doesn't go.
He can't speak English for a start and doesn't appear to empathise with his players.None of us know for certain what went wrong behind the scenes in S.A. but I dare say some of it will come out.One thing we do know is that there was more disharmony in the camp than there should have been!
Time for a British manager imho...or if a foreigner how about Jurgen Klinnsmann?

 

[Gritt23]

As the old saying goes " He's lost the dresing room " in my opinion.

I think we have to get past that as a standard kneejerk response. It's time the players took responsibility themselves, rather than always hiding behind that tired old excuse.

How can a man of his calibre "lose the dressing room" unless they simply have no respect for anyone anymore, which is their problem and why they will never achieve the success as players that he has as manager.

The problem is the players, and that they simply aren't ecven close to being good enough. This group has had plenty of chances, and can't have another in 2 years time.

As long as Capello wants to clear out everyone who is going to be tood old in 4 years and start building all over again, then I'm behind him. If he wants this bunch of over-rated under-achievers to have one more crack at a major tournament in 2 years time, then I'm less keen on keeping him.

What we need is to get Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Joe Cole rounded up and receiving a collective

Give Rooney a reality check, and a kick up the backside, and stop telling them all what a great side they are, as they are then shocked when it turns out other teams are actually far better, even ones who weren't fancied to win the tournament.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

We qualified comfortably, but once again when the tournament arrived, we absolutely STANK the place out. Same players, same old story.

Capello has brought success everywhere he has gone in his glittering career...except England. Frankly I think that says a lot more about our players than it does Capello.

Are we SERIOUSLY saying its not the players fault, its Capello's ? Honestly ?

I agree 100%

The players are the main issue, They cant put the team before ego's. No manager can solve this.

As for players playing out of position, which ones?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Exactly. 8 qualifying games into a 9 match campaign, we had WON eight and qualified. We lost the 1 game that didnt matter.

Germany was the first time we conceeded more than one goal in a competitive match. Yes he made mistakes, but who doesnt.

I like him and he puts the ego billy bignuts in the squad in their place.

John Terry is the one ripping the team up, by trying to get his own way, without the backing, and performing abysmally on the pitch. Get him OUT

John Terry should never be allowed a squad again, He tried to do to Fabio what he did to Jose.

 

[Marshy]

We still havent beaten a good side under Capello or even a half decent side.

Fabio wont change his ways. IF he does then im happy for him to stay on, but he's a 4-4-2 man all the way and still plays them out of position.

 

[Simster]

We qualified comfortably, but once again when the tournament arrived, we absolutely STANK the place out. Same players, same old story.

Capello has brought success everywhere he has gone in his glittering career...except England. Frankly I think that says a lot more about our players than it does Capello.

Are we SERIOUSLY saying its not the players fault, its Capello's ? Honestly ?

This.

Hopefully Capello will stay on and have the confidence to axe the more troublesome of his "star" players. He needs hungry, competent players who act like proper team players in times of adversity, and I'm sure we have plenty of them in this country.

 

[keaton]

As for players playing out of position, which ones?

It's less out of position for most of them than just not in the right role. Neither Barry nor Lampard is a holding player, they both have at least one other midfielder behind them to do the defensive work. Rooney plays in a front two very rarely with Berbatov and they never look good. Gerrard's not a wide left player or a proper central midfielder anymore. Both Johnson and Cole are used to having the other full-back sit more and less pressure on them to defend, Terry's in the wrong centre-half position, Milner's more a central midfielder, Lennon's used to playing a proper 4-4-2 with another winger on the other flank which gives him space, Defoe plays most of the time with a target man alongside, Heskey's not used to being on the pitch

 

[vegster]

This witchunt is as predictable as the result against the Germans. There is no one cause for Englands woe's, its a litany of failure on many levels combined with an over expectation of hope.

Face it, we are NOT a major team in world football and as such we should not be surprised by the result when we come up against a team that is.

 

[supaseagull]

i have to totally agree with Easy 10 & Mendoza on this one.

No matter who is England manager, the fact still remains that the reason why we performed so badly is because the likes of Terry, Lampard (albeit yesterday was one of his better performances) and Gerrard ALWAYS underperform for England.

I'm fed up with people saying what a great player GErrard is...He isn't and never has been. A great player is someone like Stuart Pearce who plays for their country and not themselves.

The Premier league, run by the FA, needs to take a long hard look at itself and decide whether it wants to be a money making machine or whether it does have the interests of English football at heart and produce players who play for the shirt. If it does, then a salary and foreign player/coach cap has to be introduced. However, f*** all will be done until after the 2018 decision is made because the good old FA and all the old f*ckwits in charge are as corrupt as Emporer Blatter.

 

[sten_super]

Fabio was certianly not blameless in this tournament. He made some odd choices in his squad, and then clearly had his favourites that he was going to play regardless of fitness or form. He showed a complete lack of flexibility in his tactics.

Having said that, ultimately it was the players that didn't perform, and they must carry the majority of the blame. I would now drop anyone who is not going to be around for the next world cup; write off the Euros as a chance to build a new team. Out would go James, Gerrard, Lampard, Upson, Carragher, Heskey, Ferdinand at the very least.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

It's less out of position for most of them than just not in the right role. Neither Barry nor Lampard is a holding player, they both have at least one other midfielder behind them to do the defensive work. Rooney plays in a front two very rarely with Berbatov and they never look good. Gerrard's not a wide left player or a proper central midfielder anymore. Both Johnson and Cole are used to having the other full-back sit more and less pressure on them to defend, Terry's in the wrong centre-half position, Milner's more a central midfielder, Lennon's used to playing a proper 4-4-2 with another winger on the other flank which gives him space, Defoe plays most of the time with a target man alongside, Heskey's not used to being on the pitch

Barry Can do a job as a holding player and has done it for a while for England OK.

My View is that if the players are good enough they should be able to adapt, other international teams manager to do it. For me its the players.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

This.

Hopefully Capello will stay on and have the confidence to axe the more troublesome of his "star" players. He needs hungry, competent players who act like proper team players in times of adversity, and I'm sure we have plenty of them in this country.

We may of lost but I doubt it would of been 4-1 if you had players like Huddlestone, Youngh, Dawson, Parker etc playing. They would see it as an honour to play for England at a world cup.

Look at Dawson for example, he never stopped smiling all the time he was at the camp despite being called up late, he saw it as a honour and not a chance to get a pay rise from Nike.

 

[humpy]

We qualified comfortably, but once again when the tournament arrived, we absolutely STANK the place out. Same players, same old story.

Capello has brought success everywhere he has gone in his glittering career...except England. Frankly I think that says a lot more about our players than it does Capello.

Are we SERIOUSLY saying its not the players fault, its Capello's ? Honestly ?

nail head

 

[Mendoza]

John Terry should never be allowed a squad again, He tried to do to Fabio what he did to Jose.

exactly, yet Terry believes he is the centre of the universe and is correct. He was at fault for the first couple of goals, yet probably didnt see that himself.

At least Capello managed to get him into line of sorts, but by default has to pick him, with no one else really available.

I would love Capello to stay, although he could do without the weird shit like trying to get retired players back. It's time to look to the future, and hopefully it means a few of this squad retire and Capello can start with the likes of the younger generation like Adam Johnson, Rodwell, Wilshire, Walcott etc

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

yeah let's replace one of the greatest managers the world has ever seen and replace him with harry f***ing redknapp

jesus wept

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

We're all right royally pissed off today but come on - Harry Redknapp?

If he does go, and I hope he doesn't, I wouldn't mind Roy Hodgson who crucially does have international management experience. He didn't do a bad job with Finland as I recall, very nearly got them to Euro 2008 was it?

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

hodgson not only has international experience he also has knowledge of football outside of england, something NONE of our players have

 

[Mr Banana]

It's impossible to tell whether any of the players were really to blame - no team would have won with our tactics yesterday. You can debate whether other elements were partly to blame, but Fab's tactics throughout a tournament he said England would get to the final of were disastrous, his refusal to change them suicidal. He has to go.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

yeah let's replace one of the greatest managers the world has ever seen and replace him with harry f***ing redknapp

jesus wept

God its SO depressing