34064 Fighter Command
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What's ' golden ' about them, they're badly tarnished and the gold plate is wearing off, exposing the base metal underneath !
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Does anyone still think Capello is the man for the Job ?
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What's ' golden ' about them, they're badly tarnished and the gold plate is wearing off, exposing the base metal underneath !
Yep, its AAALLLL down to Capello isn't it.
Nothing whatsover to do with a bunch of overpaid, overhyped Premiership footballers who have their dicks sucked by the press all season long about how "incredible" they are, how "world class" they are, then run onto the pitch and completely stink the f***ing place out. Again.
Of COURSE the answer is to sack the manager. It always is, isn't it ? That'll sort everything, it always does. Because its all Capello's fault, OBVIOUSLY.
No,it isn't ALL down to the manager,but he is the one paid an outrageous sum of money to get results from the above overpaid,overhyped footballers....in between dick sucking sessions of course!
34064 Fighter Command
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So how come they all do that job brilliantly for their own clubs, utter rubbish, the players either just don't care about international football, or are just not good enough, end off. Christ sake my granny ( if she was still alive ) could have run faster than some of that bunch of useless....... and yes Barry and Upson I'm looking at YOU.
England don't perform under Eriksson.
England don't perform under McClaren.
England don't perform under Capello.....
Guess what, England WON'T perform under AN Other.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
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This.
£6m a year to make the brave decision to NOT drop Rooney or even sub him. To bring on Heskey in search of goals and leave Crouch on the bench.
turienzo's lovechild
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i think we'll have to agree to disagree
apart from one point, i wouldn't call sven's tenure a 'disaster'
i'd say that generally england are in the top 8 in the world, maybe 6th or 7th, so quarter finals are about right imo
Austrian Gull
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I was just using the golden generation tag bestowed on them by the English press - I certainly don't think they are. They've never come close to winning a single tournament.
Marshy
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Because Rooney plays up front for Man U
Gerrard plays behind a front man at Liverpool
Terry plays on the right side of a centre back pairing.
Lampard dosent have to play a holding role at Chelsea
If we play them in the correct positions who knows...we MIGHT not saying we will get somewhere...
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Beat Germany in Berlin 2-1
International friendly: Germany 1-2 England | Football | The Guardian
but don't let facts get in the way
Scoffers
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I can see both sides of the Capello debate. For me, anyone that includes injured players like King and Non Strikers like Heskey doesn't quite have the necessary know how to make it happen.
Then, once we get to the finals, unable or unwilling to change the formation to change the game.
Then, vs Germany........I give up.
Sack him, bring in someone who speaks proper English, Tactically sound, yet flexible. Strict yet not too strict.
I dont give a shit how much it costs to get rid and replace.
Then, once we get to the finals, unable or unwilling to change the formation to change the game.
Then, vs Germany........I give up.
Sack him, bring in someone who speaks proper English, Tactically sound, yet flexible. Strict yet not too strict.
I dont give a shit how much it costs to get rid and replace.
Mendoza
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France - played ok, but gave away a penalty after shambolic defending
Spain - they were in the middle of their 48 unbeaten games and outclassed us
Holland - wasnt that bad after shambolic defending. Did very well to come from 2 goals down
Brazil - practically a reserve team for both teams, dont read into it too much
Germany - shambolic defending on the biggest stage
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Blame must be apportioned to both the players AND the management of course. Capello will have realised not everything he has attempted has come off, but the bulk of the blame has to be with the players, because we've seen it all before from them. Its just what they do.
I think what Capello will realise now is that our players, even our supposed best ones, are of such basic limited footballing intelligence that they are simply incapable of performing or adapting to a role within the team that is in any way different to how or where they usually play for their clubs. That adaptibilty is often what sets apart a good player from a world class player.
Its like english players play with blinkers on. Take them out of their "comfort zone" and put them into anything remotely different in the team, and they are incapable of rising to the challenge. They don't flourish, they visibly shrink.
Good players are intelligent enough to adapt. Ours quite clearly cannot.
I think what Capello will realise now is that our players, even our supposed best ones, are of such basic limited footballing intelligence that they are simply incapable of performing or adapting to a role within the team that is in any way different to how or where they usually play for their clubs. That adaptibilty is often what sets apart a good player from a world class player.
Its like english players play with blinkers on. Take them out of their "comfort zone" and put them into anything remotely different in the team, and they are incapable of rising to the challenge. They don't flourish, they visibly shrink.
Good players are intelligent enough to adapt. Ours quite clearly cannot.
Scoffers
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Ok, so what would you do?
Give Capello another 4 years to build and develop a proper Team, capable of fulfilling the criteria you outline?
England 5 - 1 Croatia
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Croatia 1 - 4 England
FIFA are currently ranked 10th in the world but were higher when we beat them
I said after the last World Cup that Sven had done well and was roundly abused by just about everybody on NSC that any half-decent manager would be able to do better. Yes, we've been SO much better since then
Mr Banana
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That's exactly the problem - he doesn't. You can take your pick of which point he could have changed a flawed system, from the Mexico and Japan friendlies to half-time yesterday. If you think the players are shirking responsibility, Capello's post-match interviews outdid them all. The adaptability needs to start with the tactics.
Someone on here criticised Capello for not perservering with Rooney up front and Gerrard behind him. He tried it v France, and reviews were not pleasant 'Did not link reliably,' The Guardian. 'Can surely be struck from Capello's list of bright ideas,' The Independent. 'As dull as ditchwater . . . vapid and one paced,' The Times. 'Made little impact on the game,' The Scotsman. 'Lacked ideas, lacked inspiration, lacked the killer instinct,' The Daily Mail. (Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1288451/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Rooney-Gerrard-That-didnt-work-lads.html). He was criticised by one poster on here for only giving it 60 minutes.
The 4-4-2 system had worked. Heskey partnering Rooney had worked. Gerrard on the left had worked. So he persevered with it.
Can he win? If he abandons a tactic because it's not working he is criticised for giving up on it too early, if he doesn't abandon it he's stubborn and ignorant of the teams and his failings.
Sven was criticised for moving away from 4-4-2. Capello criticised for sticking to it. McClaren criticised for being to friendly, Capello for being too authoritarian.
Whatever he does, he will be criticised. And to be honest, whoever is in charge will face the same issues.
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We did beat Germany in Berlin.