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AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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I have been watching the old Dr Whos from the 60s on the iPlayer. I am beginning to warm to the animated ones with the original sound track. I was watching yesterday and though, hello, what's this? Calling @Papa Lazarou

I rewound and took a snap. This is from a Peter Troughton episode, with Jamie, and was the last episode with Victoria. It was about killer seaweed (terror of the deep or somesuch). The bit that caught my attention had nothing to do with the story. Spooky or what? So presuming this was in the original, the writers were sowing gingerbread trails (to mix metaphors) way back in the 60s. No wonder I couldn't follow the plot of the most recent but one televised episode :lolol:

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Bill Belichick was in Dr Who? Blimey.
 




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Bill Belichick was in Dr Who? Blimey.
I had to look him up, but well spotted. A cheeky American Sport follower when not compiling your spreadsheets, eh? ???

(And no, that isn't the right answer).
 


Albion my Albion

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Bill Belichick was in Dr Who? Blimey.

I had to look him up, but well spotted. A cheeky American Sport follower when not compiling your spreadsheets, eh? ???

(And no, that isn't the right answer).


In the style of Ted Lasso maybe BB could become the new manager of BHAFC?
 




Brovion

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I had to look him up, but well spotted. A cheeky American Sport follower when not compiling your spreadsheets, eh? ???

(And no, that isn't the right answer).
Roger Delgardo? (First, and best, Master).

Yes, I too have been wading through all the BBC back catalogue. I'm a series behind you I think as I've got to The Ice Warriors. (Which is very relevant to our times. We need to produce more carbon dioxide to stop the planet from freezing!)

I have to say, some are, um ..... 'not quite as good as I remember'. Excused of course as they're nearly sixty years old. However when I've watched a few 'classic' ones I do reward myself with a current one.
 






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Roger Delgardo? (First, and best, Master).

Yes, I too have been wading through all the BBC back catalogue. I'm a series behind you I think as I've got to The Ice Warriors. (Which is very relevant to our times. We need to produce more carbon dioxide to stop the planet from freezing!)

I have to say, some are, um ..... 'not quite as good as I remember'. Excused of course as they're nearly sixty years old. However when I've watched a few 'classic' ones I do reward myself with a current one.
The William Hartnell ones were faster paced than I remember. Troughton is more playful than I remember. A lot of the acting is wooden, the patronizing sexist males are very tiresome (my dear) but some of the writing is brilliant. Who knew that the cybermen were essentially invented by Kit Pedler, who lived down the road from me in Doddington?

Yes, it is Roger Delgardo. Or Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto, to give him his full name. Considering the wheel in space was filmed in and Delgardo appeared first as the master in 1971, and the episode from which I found that still (the underwater menace) was made in 1967, I think the animators may have simply been mucking about in this modern animation. We will never know if the poster existed in the original acted version.
 


Deadly Danson

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The William Hartnell ones were faster paced than I remember. Troughton is more playful than I remember. A lot of the acting is wooden, the patronizing sexist males are very tiresome (my dear) but some of the writing is brilliant. Who knew that the cybermen were essentially invented by Kit Pedler, who lived down the road from me in Doddington?

Yes, it is Roger Delgardo. Or Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto, to give him his full name. Considering the wheel in space was filmed in and Delgardo appeared first as the master in 1971, and the episode from which I found that still (the underwater menace) was made in 1967, I think the animators may have simply been mucking about in this modern animation. We will never know if the poster existed in the original acted veversion.
I'm afraid to say it wasn't. The Master wasn't even dreamed up until Barry Letts took over in 1970 and he knew of Delgado so offered him the role. It's animators having a little in joke. But Fury from the Deep is a cracking story.
 




Brovion

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The William Hartnell ones were faster paced than I remember. Troughton is more playful than I remember. A lot of the acting is wooden, the patronizing sexist males are very tiresome (my dear) but some of the writing is brilliant. Who knew that the cybermen were essentially invented by Kit Pedler, who lived down the road from me in Doddington?

Yes, it is Roger Delgardo. Or Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto, to give him his full name. Considering the wheel in space was filmed in and Delgardo appeared first as the master in 1971, and the episode from which I found that still (the underwater menace) was made in 1967, I think the animators may have simply been mucking about in this modern animation. We will never know if the poster existed in the original acted version.
Yes, agree with you about the acting and the sexism. Carole Ann Ford left because all she did was scream, but a lot of the young female replacements pretty much played the same role. Also companions seemed to be dropped at random. Nowadays when someone leaves the Tardis they get a big emotional 'goodbye' episode, in the 1960s they often left without much fanfare and some people like Dodie Chaplet just got dropped mid-series without even a goodbye appearance: "Message from Dodi - she's staying in the country."

Also in the 'old days' whenever they did an historical episode it was pure history, there were no aliens, no existential threats to the fabric of the universe, they just built stories around historical people and events. Now if they go back in the past ('The Beatles' one just being the most recent example) there has to be a monster involved.
 


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Yes, agree with you about the acting and the sexism. Carole Ann Ford left because all she did was scream, but a lot of the young female replacements pretty much played the same role. Also companions seemed to be dropped at random. Nowadays when someone leaves the Tardis they get a big emotional 'goodbye' episode, in the 1960s they often left without much fanfare and some people like Dodie Chaplet just got dropped mid-series without even a goodbye appearance: "Message from Dodi - she's staying in the country."

Also in the 'old days' whenever they did an historical episode it was pure history, there were no aliens, no existential threats to the fabric of the universe, they just built stories around historical people and events. Now if they go back in the past ('The Beatles' one just being the most recent example) there has to be a monster involved.
Indeed.

I am one of those weirdos who loves all the doctor who. I am looking forward to Worzel Gummage's appearance. They had no budget so they invented the trope that the doctor couldn't shift his Tardis off Earth (as I'm sure you know).
 






Deadly Danson

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Indeed.

I am one of those weirdos who loves all the doctor who. I am looking forward to Worzel Gummage's appearance. They had no budget so they invented the trope that the doctor couldn't shift his Tardis off Earth (as I'm sure you know).
Pertwee's first season is great - Inferno being one of my favourites - as you say, all Earth bound and (for Dr Who) quite gritty. God, I'm SUCH an anorak 😄
 




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I'm afraid to say it wasn't. The Master wasn't even dreamed up until Barry Letts took over in 1970 and he knew of Delgado so offered him the role. It's animators having a little in joke. But Fury from the Deep is a cracking story.
:thumbsup: That's what I had hoped. I love a bit of meta, me.
 




Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
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I'm afraid to say it wasn't. The Master wasn't even dreamed up until Barry Letts took over in 1970 and he knew of Delgado so offered him the role. It's animators having a little in joke. But Fury from the Deep is a cracking story.
I do like the re-imagined colour animations; it shows a way of looking at the stories I’d not always thought of before - the Macra Terror one especially.
 


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One for the anoraks. I was watching an old Troughton episode of Dr Who the other night. "The mind Robber" from 1968, written by Peter Ling. Aside from the weird second rate versions of Cyberman, the episode was bloody brilliant. But....what's this?

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So.....

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Next, I'm doing to discover that 'The Doctor' was a character in Space Patrol. I'm distraught.
 


Curious Orange

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Jul 5, 2003
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On NSC for over two decades...
One for the anoraks. I was watching an old Troughton episode of Dr Who the other night. "The mind Robber" from 1968, written by Peter Ling. Aside from the weird second rate versions of Cyberman, the episode was bloody brilliant. But....what's this?

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So.....

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Next, I'm doing to discover that 'The Doctor' was a character in Space Patrol. I'm distraught.
They should do a cricket episode featuring W.G. Grace so they can have confusion about exactly which Doctor is being referred to.
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
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One for the anoraks. I was watching an old Troughton episode of Dr Who the other night. "The mind Robber" from 1968, written by Peter Ling. Aside from the weird second rate versions of Cyberman, the episode was bloody brilliant. But....what's this?

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So.....

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Next, I'm doing to discover that 'The Doctor' was a character in Space Patrol. I'm distraught.
Happy to confirm the renegade Time Lord known as The Master or latterly Missy was not the same as Emrys Jones' weirdo character in The Mind Robber. NEXT!!!
 






Eeyore

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Black Orchid. Peter Davison story from 1982 - he plays cricket and when he arrives they are expecting "The Doctor"...Oh yes!
Oh, yes. A decent cricketer by all accounts.
 


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