Do you want Scotland to be a part of The United Kingdom?

[Eeyore]

Does this mean we get to vote on Brexit again ?

Let's vote of everything every six months.

 

[heathgate]

You seem to have missed off the "rarely supported" bit off my post. This provides important context.

So how about your other garbled comment... 400 miles London Edinburgh..... how about Berlin Munich or Paris to anywhere south of Lyon?..... stop now please.

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[alfredmizen]

I prefer outward looking and cooperation so yes. But, I can fully understand why they are fed up being ruled by a party 400 miles away which they have historically rarely ever supported and are now being dragged out of the EU by the very same people against their will.

My message to the Scots, and my fellow Brits, is come and join us over here.

Firstly you're wrong about the Scots rarely having supported the tories , as recently as 1979 they had 22 mps to labours 36, as recently try as 1955 they had 38 , 2 more than labour , and do you not see the Irony in your statement about understanding the Scots not wanting get to be ruled by people 400 miles away ? Whys it OK for us to be ruled by brussels/strasbourg then ?

 

[alfredmizen]

You seem to have missed off the "rarely supported" bit off my post. This provides important context.

Which was incorrect.

 

[oneillco]

Before long we're just going to be a measly little country that doesn't make anything and is totally defenseless, maybe that's what people want..

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That boat has already sailed...

 

[AmexRuislip]

If the Scots want independence, then good luck to them.
The Tories always have had this high brow attitude towards them, IMO.
I have worked with a few Scots in the RAF in my time, and I've always found its a 50/50 towards their attitude of independence.
Whichever way the vote goes, if it ever happens, I'm always questioning how the armed forces would evolve?

 

[Insel affe]

Scotland named & settleled by the Irish & owned by the English.

What's their problem, we pay for them to laze about drink buckfast and deep fry everything win win for them.

We even invented their national dress the modern kilt.

They are so stupid they don't know when they are onto a good thing.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Firstly you're wrong about the Scots rarely having supported the tories , as recently as 1979 they had 22 mps to labours 36, as recently try as 1955 they had 38 , 2 more than labour , and do you not see the Irony in your statement about understanding the Scots not wanting get to be ruled by people 400 miles away ? Whys it OK for us to be ruled by brussels/strasbourg then ?

But in 1979, by your own admission they had fewer MPs, so they were not supporting Thatcher's government? I'm not overly hot on Scottish history but I thought in general the Tories have rarely had a majority over the border?

 

[wellquickwoody]

I think they should go, but not cause I'm bitter with them, I'm jealous of them. If they have the opportunity to kiss good bye to this tory cesspit good luck to them.

If you hate it so much you have a whole world out there which is not Tory run. But you still choose to stay here?

 

[BensGrandad]

I think that they should remain but I have no great views either way what I would say is that if they want a break away it should be complete and they must become responsible for everything and be self sufficient with no help or cash from Westminster.

 

[oneillco]

Anyone who thought Brexit *wouldn't* lead to breakup of the UK wasn't paying enough attention. If it wasn't inevitable before (which I think it was), May's intransigent, patronising attitude to Scotland has made it a dead certainty.

Spot on...it's almost like Brexit fans weren't listening to any of the rational arguments before the vote. And God alone knows what the consequences will be for Ireland; again Brexit was predicted to fan the flames but the Farage fan-club just scoffed.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Instinct says "better together", but in reality, what do the Scots do for us ? It seems to be all one way. I think they'll struggle without our support, but if they go it alone ... f*ck 'em.

 

[Yoda]

The words United Kingdom describe my thoughts.

Unfortunately, Divisive Kingdom best describes it over the last couple of years.

 

[heathgate]

But in 1979, by your own admission they had fewer MPs, so they were not supporting Thatcher's government? I'm not overly hot on Scottish history but I thought in general the Tories have rarely had a majority over the border?

The west country has, until recently, always by tradition voted Lib/LibDem... any different?... any closer?

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[CaptainDaveUK]

Yes I do and so does my family. What annoys me is that we don't get a vote. Ok I'm half Scottish but my mum grew up in Kirriemuir, her dad was a Scottish minister, she went to Edinburgh University yet apparently she wasn't eligible to vote in the once in a life time referendum vote. Just because someone doesn't live in Scotland doesn't mean they aren't Scottish. All Scots should be able to vote not just resident Scots.

 

[Bob!]

Do they get to keep Trident?

 

[sparkie]

Have we got a viable alternative plan for Faslane that we could afford and implement? If we could answer 'yes' to your question and mine, then I'd be much more ambivalent to voting to leave The EU and breaking up as a country.

I think there are 2 or 3 options - viable, yes. Ideal and cheap, no.

 

[Soulman]

Anyone who thought Brexit *wouldn't* lead to breakup of the UK wasn't paying enough attention. If it wasn't inevitable before (which I think it was), May's intransigent, patronising attitude to Scotland has made it a dead certainty.

Really. Perhaps look at a few forums that are heavily laden with Scots. The majority despise Sturgeon. Many Scots will not vote Tory and Labour are so useless that they can not vote for them. When it comes to the vote for independence I think stay will win.

 

[alfredmizen]

But in 1979, by your own admission they had fewer MPs, so they were not supporting Thatcher's government? I'm not overly hot on Scottish history but I thought in general the Tories have rarely had a majority over the border?

Your post implied that tory support in scotland has always been at current.levels.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

When we know what Brexit means to the UK then they can decide if they want to be a part of it or not.

...this is May's argument. Bur why should it prevail if the rest of the UK is denied a further referendum 'when we know what Brexit means to the UK'? Consistency?